Thursday, September 2, 2010

Welcome to Dubai !!! This happens all the time, and the same attitude filters down to there children as well, no wonder these folk cant settle when they have to return home !!!!

This is something you really need to swallow and get over. As far as iam concerned you have a child and carry the costs no matter how high. When i was at school in england my blazer cost my parents £200 and that was just the jacket. If you want them to attend the school then you pay the price otherwise there are plenty of other schools and pupils to fill the school you have chosen.

My wife and I had our baby at Med-Care near safa park. They were amazing!! My wife was in labour for 36 hours and once our little boy arrived i stayed there, for three days and they even gave me a bed. I didnt pay anything extra. My wife and I had planned out everything that we would need and that included the birth plan that stated what the doctors and nurses were allowed to do for us and it worked out perfectly...

Hmm,looks like there's serious anger management issues going on in Dubai. First the bunch attacking the pregnant woman in Ikea, now this. Strangely, they're both of the same nationality...

This is not surprising as this month I have seen some awful driving on our roads - worse than usual. People racing and speeding and weaving between cars. My message to them - if you are ina hurry to go to an early grave fine but I am not so get off our roads and stay at home until you learn to drive with consideration for other drivers.

Stace we cannot condemn a whole nation over a ridiculous few. The fault does not lie with the faith but the people who misuse it for their purpose. Not long ago we had a catholic crusade by Ferdinand and Isabella and anyone who was not a catholic was burnt and even Queen Mary of England joined in hence Mary Bloody Mary. As for ground zero so far its been allegations but no concrete proof it was muslims - just heresay by Bush Admins. Give us proof it was Muslims before sending out a lynching mob to wipe us all out and condemn us all. As for Islam remember to remove the faith from all the added inventions by people - either from their cultures or customs etc. As for faith Stace according to history when the Muslims read passages from the Quran to the Abyssinians and to the promenant Jews of the time they said it was identical to their books. At the end of the day we are all God children and how we worship him is not relevant as it is clear that he sent different books to different nations - Torah, Injeel (Bible), Zuboor (Psalms) and the Quran.

This is unfortunate as Friday is already a day off. It would be nice if people could get an extra day off in lieu of this. Our offices are opened on Saturday and Thursday is half day.

DearDilu and Yniake - I think you need your sarcasm detectors checked.

I suggest day7, that you wait until it has been confirmed before you preach - bless you

Why pelt the poor donkeys? They're not asses who cheated! If these mad fans met the cricketers on their return and threw a few things at them we'd all understand but why bring these poor creatures into it all. I'm stumped!

At least the people who are not fortunate enough to have a 2 day off shall benefit........

It seems a deep rooted seed of hatred has been planted between the Muslims and christians which because of some people cannot be bridged. Having an open mind to absorb reality is a must. A A Ali has a point why dont we give it a chance and see the truth for what it is and not how it is potrayed.

Lynch mob much...funny how people on the same side are tagging each other..

No disrespect to either of you because I was on the same wagon before someone pointed out that there's two sides to the coin. What if this is not a means to rub it in the face of the American's but rather a way to make amends by building a place of worship close to the site to commemorate the souls that were lost that day... Also, there was a muslim place of worship that got tagged due to the events of that day, there's a lot that's missing in quite a few papers..I think i'll stick to the conspiracy theorists and just consult the news papers when angry crickters take it out on the donkeys...

I have no idea how these people think they can get away with this kind of thing

Clearly these guys don't believe in the 80/20 rule of repeat custom.

haha, if you don't like our brothels you should LEAVE and go back to your own brothels!!!

seriously, all our public holidays are on a weekend. We havent enojyed any public holiday since the start of this year... and we work 10 hours a day. grrr.

get real AA Ali, are u in denial stage or something? Its on the news - what do you mean accusing? jealous?

jealous of what exactly? the excessive concrete? or all that sand? ooh i know! its the scorching blistering wilting heat isnt it? pfft

Stace. you have to be open minded. world policy is not based on such a ridicules racism as yours beside Christians wiped out Iraq not only 2 buildings. do you feel any threat living near by?

So after all 7days readers were wrong as usual with their assumptions that the UAE was trying to rob them their pennys, it was a security issue aftet all ,,hummm. Strangely quit in here LOL

Stop accusing Dubai of having indecent activities - you are just jealous - thats all.

These people continue to spit in the face of the world, with so much suffering going on these idiots just continue to make it worse. They take their frustration out on animals...well I guess it gives the women a break!

Idiots

this is lunacy!! dont THESE people realise this sort of action makes them look primitive and idiotic? this is more ridiculous than burning effigies

That's an easy one to answer Stace. We'd be banned for life. I know Islam is a peaceful religion but far too many nutters spoil that for the rest of them. My opinion is to not rub salt into wounds by building this Islamic Center so close to Ground Zero - it would offend too many people (and we dont' want to do that, do we?)

This isn't only a DUBAI THING. All over the world even in "civilised modern" countries such as Canada, collectors will peel the skin off your back for failing to pay. I has collectors call me 27 times a day or at night and even on weekends. My excuse of having lost my job meant nothing to them. Banks are there to make money for themselves, they dont have the customers interest at heart at all. They love u as long as u have the money and are paying up, there is no "humanity" in the banking business. So stop saying that this only happens in Dubai as I'm sure anywhere in the world if u dont pay up u"ll have hell to pay.

I wonder what the Muslims views would be if a christian or catholic exstremist group crashed a plane into the Burj Khalifa or attacked the UAE in anyway, would people allow a christian/catholic church to be built opposite the site??? Its just a question of respect. Why not build the mosque a few more blocks away in another unused building???

im guessing China and Morocco Clusters.. oh, Russia? hmm... Any one knows?

It seems that police and security witnessed enough to open a case against these individuals. Innocent until proven guilty, sure; I'll be watching this case with interest. Sadly when the accused are not even made to appear in court it doesn't look good. Anyway, I sincerely hope that the unborn child was unharmed, and that the children alledgedly watching their dads violently abuse a heavily pregnant woman are not too negatively affected by it. As with any country, it's a shame that a couple of nasty indivduals behave in this manner and subsequently tarnish the reputation of others of the same nationality. It's sad that expats are becoming intimidated by anyone in a kandoura, when this region has a history and tradition of outstanding hospitality towards visitors.

there goes my off day for eid :P

The problem with Islam is that it has been hijacked by fundamentalists and the ignorant with their own brand or version of Islam which is extreme BUT the fault lies with all of us for allowing it to happen due to our own apathy. We the general moderate Muslims are scared of fanatical Islam as that seen in Afghanistan and we dont want it - in fact it is not Islam as we know it but a distortion. In fact Al Qaeda should not be acknowledged as Muslims internationally and and Terrorist claiming in the name of Islam should be denied the right to call himself a Muslim - yep - thats the way to treat them. By the way there is still no concrete proof as to who committed 9/11 accept heresay by the Bush Administration and a few cooked up Osama Hollywood style Videos which seem to have popped up everytime that admin needed a distration from their own failures. Yes the Taliban do exists but as for Osama carrying out 9/11 - sorry too far fetched to swallow.

This woman makes Jessica Simpson look like a Rocket Scientist...

international city is a brothels hub now!!!!!!!!!!! totally mess!

you must be joking !

When i was 20 i wasnt as wise as i am now. I was definetly more naive but would never have got into a car with a drunk guy. None the less dont put age expectations on other ppl as we develop in our own space and time. Trying to advise her what she 'should have done ' is irresponsible and disrespectful. Everything dissolves against the fact that she was raped. The girl could be naked on the bed passed out with alchol but if she says 'no' to the guy and he still continues then that is a violation against humanity. It is the man that i question more than the girl.

They need to be brought back immediately to resolve the matter correctly. I personally belive this blatent disrespect shows their obvious disregard for humanity. They should have the self respect and ownership to stand in court before heading off to pilgrimage. Its a sorry excuse really and i cannot believe that the defense have used this to explain their non - appearance. Humanity should always come before religion as i assume any self respecting god would assume you would do this anyway??

Probably the bank policy maker had a bad experience with wild animals during safari in Kenya.

Really? There are brothels in Dubai? No, I don't believe it!

Again....this issue is already CONSIDERED CLOSE. Brethren, let us live in peace with hope and shall we pray that this incident will not happened to anyone of us anymore. I believe that the presumption of innocent until proven guilty should be bestowed to those 3 involved persons. 

Do that to a pregnant woman - I cannot understand, I cannot admit, I cannot forgive, in any civilized country they will be put in prison immediately, what will happened to them, I hope it's not what I think ( a warning and 1000Dirhams fine)

@AA.Ali...so true! I am 100% in agreement with you. Its like the Haiti fund too...billions were raised, all the money raised could probably build a "dubai like" in haiti...yet it still looks the way it was and probably always will.

Why do you spend your time complaining in public instead of talking to your neighbors? This is a country were people enjoy the chill of the night not just during the Holy Month of Ramadan. 1 o'clock is nothing in this culture. Speak to your neighbors to find a solution.

Racing/showing off! Believe me no one is interested in who is driving the car, just possibly the car. Brits dont like show offs and they dont like fools like this disrespecting their laws. As everyone has said here these cars once identified need to be clamped, this way the owner has to pay..Its not just Emirates believe me those Saudis love a good burn up as well, trouble is they cannot drive to save their lives,!

May I ask a pertinent question - why is it we are always donating money for relief funds - what about their governments dont they have emergency funds in their accounts. Since Band Aid started its been a never ending begging and donating to countless so called emergencies mostly in 3rd world countries. Wouldnt it be better to teach them to learn to be self sufficient and productive in the long term instead of just supplying them with food only etc. The permanent plague of 3rd world countries are bad goverments and lack of education. As for the floods well its just a bit of history repeating itself - after all Noah's people got drowned too - mmm.

Actually this is true as by middle of ramadhan month I have actually lost my appetite and hardly eat. I dont notice this until 3/4 pm next day. Must admit thought there are some people who can eat massive amount of food at Iftar - leaving you speachless. My biggest scare are those Speedy Gonzales who zoom by us without regard for safety of other motorists especially during this month using fasting as an excuse for bad manners.

DJenkins - I understand what you are trying to say but she is 20 not 12. If she is old enough to go to a bar and drink then she should be old enough to know not to be so naive! Im sorry but I was in the same situation when I was 19 and a point blankley refused a lift and walked back into the bar I had just come out of to wait for my cab, she could of done the same. No one deserves to be raped but let this be a teaching to those who trust guys like this in bars! Not all guys will do this but Stay Safe girls and dont take lifts from anyone!.

Crunch - I would happily go to prison in order to protect my wife, are you saying you would not?? If the UAE choose to put people in jail for defending thier families then that is a failing on the part of the punitive system here. Either way I would defend my wife with everything in my power, with my life if necesary, in order to avoid her from being assaulted and beaten

Crunch, you really did make yourself look stupid with your last comment. All the Emirates operate seperately, they don't talk to one another! er why do you think there are Abu Dhabi/Dubai/Sharjah number plates instead of a UAE number plate - now go back and do your homework!

And we're supposed to be the most advanced species?? Humans are disgusting.....

Funniest "it's our country" tale (+ we all have one) was someone insane driver weaving in and out in Fahidi St (yep, narrow too), when I beeped my horn to alert him to watch what the hell he was doing he slowed down, wound down the window and started spitting from his car to mine saying "it's my country" ... I have never laughed so hard in my life. Utterly pathetic but very amusing

Oddly we're not blanket blaming 'the people' on this one but rather some individual's 'bad manners' yet any UK people in trouble recently seems to be met by "who do those people think they are" sorta' comments if as everyone behaves the same.

What are you on about crunch, UK residents using UAE or somewhere else number plates to 'get away with things'? You will go to extraordinary lengths to see that no one in Dubai or connected with the place does anything wrong ... ever, won't you! haha

I agree with Dr Spock...if they dont want drunk people in the city then ban the brunches, ban the alcohol and get the police to enforce the rules properly. The authorities then have to accept however that the tourism, the expats and the revenue that goes with the sale of alcohol will also be lost. You cannot have it both ways, alcohol easy to buy and no one ever being drunk...what a ridiculous expectation

Get yourself a pair of noise cancelling head phones...those worked a treat when I was living in Burj Khalifa whilst it was still being built!!!

@Crunch - do try to calm yourself down there Crunch, I have obviously touched a nerve in my last comment even though I did not at all mention your back ground. Isnt it interesting that people can turn nasty in a blink of an eye over the slightest of things. Looking back at the story which is being discussed perhaps that is what happened in Ikea....perhaps these people were very agressive as well and just snapped. Does it make what these men did socially acceptable though? NO IT DOESNT!!! so lets get back to disussing the subject matter shall we.

This was one of the reasons I left my old apartment in Discovery Gardens, paid a penalty to move out, and took a new apartment on the last floor.

Dear frustrated in Dubai A very eloquently constructed letter, to which I agree fully with the points you make but just one point I would bring to your attention, Protestants ARE Christians I think Catholicism was the word you were looking for.

Don't tow them, boot them. How sad that the UK lets people like this enter the country.They clearly do not know how to conduct themselves in a developed and cultured society, their motoring offences are just an example of this but no suprise to find out their countries of origin, boot them out.

Well said crunch and agree. And Stace so true infact above and beyond my expectations.

This is not a world wide pheomenon and is not practised by all muslims okay. Someof us just go through our normal routine like everyone else and go to sleep at normaltimes and just wake up 30 mins before imsak to eat and pray and go back to sleep. And personally I dont get why we have shorter working hours as Iftar is at 6.45. This is all modern day inventions practised by a few. S

You know in this Holy Month of Ramadhan maybe we should reflect more as to why such tragedies are on the increase especially in these regions. Pakistans weakness has always been ineffectual governance 

This problem isnt just in UK but across Europe and every Summer. Unbelievable then someone wouldtake his car just for a summer holiday when they can rent for less. Ooops I forgot - show offs. Lets see - Knightsbridge, Edgware Road and Mayfair was full of them and not only from UAe but Oman and Qatar. Agree with suraj - mandatory temporary number plates fromcountry of entry with open credit card placement or cash in advance which can be collected on exit of car from country. Oh maybe UK and Europe take a leaf from UAE Laws - go to jail till you pay up.

Horrible they should stop celebrating watever they r doin in this month...

I wonder if this will be a threat to the national security of the region? If so, will they call a ban on Gmail and render our computers useless?

Religion has absoloutely no part in this situation. They simply should be brought back from their supposed pilgrimage and brought to court. This situation goes beyond the realms of public decency and no pilgrimage should stand in the way of serving justice. The situation is not surprising as it happens all over the world but if anythign it needs to be treated strictly for people to feel the consequences of their actions. Allah or any religion plays no part in this. This is an act against humanity and should be acted on accordingly.

Who cares about these no good banks and out dated systems. Good luck to him. I did the same two years ago. And to all you do gooders I did it caculatley and deleberatly. Guess what I have herd nothing from them and no recourse. Ofcourse I can never go back to the UAE. But guess what? I never want to.

Getting into a car with a drunk man is obviously not sensible but this girl is only 20 and has simply made a naive decision. Girls of 20 are not all worldly wise and do make mistakes when they assume the best of people. 

June, how narrow minded are you of saying I don't condemn such act. You just proved I am damn right of what I'm thinking about you. I don't play clean because I know what I am doing and I am solely accountable for my actions with God. That way I'm obviously not like you nor your friends. I think you need to take Becklegs' advice and grow up a little and learn how to differentiate very simple things as it's very elementary for a mature human being like you. Is it really correct that we cannot teach an old dog new tricks? Prove it that we're wrong. -Peace

Clamp them.

Now we're getting somewhere; 1) Yes I agree the nuts of bolts of what he (assume) he requested isn't that much, at least inso far as he expects someone to come in a replumb his bathroom. That said however if he acted even slightly like his attitude in the letter, you can be sure he's alienated everyone he's spoken to; 2) Clearly it's irrelevant to the hotel in question, but if an increasing number of guests request it, that might be taken into consideration and their needs catered to. However both assuming, expecting and demanding it to be provided solely on the basis of Islam being the fastest growing major religion is both naive and arrogant; 3) I should hope not!; 4) Empathy doesn't mean accepting other people's wants, just understanding them. On the basis of his letter I'll tell him to get shafted, even if I understand his points.

Clamp them, I say! 

Crunch , are you tired of number crunching or are you a tourist ? Last time I checked Dubai was part of UAE . Going out a little instead of spending all day commenting on news may help ;) For minor security related matters I was not recommending that UAE minister should go to UK . Next what ? you would ask to bring this up in UN summit ... hillarious.

I look forward to the day when anyone who does not turn up for a court case (without a valid reason) is charged with contempt of court & either fined or jailed.

ExpatEddie why don't you read my post again! Where did I say people were rushing in! Being a Brit and having purchased, worked and lived in the East End I know the area and I know the hot spots or better still areas that are retaining some modicum of value. I never said people were rushing in to buy property, the East End, for those of us that actually know it, is made up of many areas, Stratford as I said before is where I have purchased and have seen a 26% increase thus far!, so obviously the Olympics are having some effect and to suggest that it has not invited invigorated investment is naive. As for Sports City, I fail to see the comparison!!!! Sports City is set over a very small area in comparison with little or no infrastructure, to compare it to the East of London is bizarre to say the least!!!

@R June, I can't seem to be able to decide who is more ignorant: you or your friends. When someone tells you something that is illogical, it is up to you to use your brain. What god will let you step all over people and then will forgive all your sins?? I KNOW that is not the case in Islam no matter what your friends have said and will give you loads of evidence. However, I'm sure you won't be convinced because you don't want to be.

dear onLooker, ignorance? of what? of what are friends are saying to me and for a confirmation from my colleague? as far as the open mindedness is concern, how open minded are you of not condemning such act? don't play clean shit because you are not! we are entitled on our own point of views! Being fair of beating a couple just because of not moving to other table? Such behavior is beyond acceptable and even using thier religion as a cover-up for the act? then somebody else will say it happens to be Ramadan and their pilgrimage is not connected to the incident! Come on! It is more than a rational thought!

Thanks Becklegs for showing common sense rather than start making idiotic remarks left and right

Fuuny,UK Govt.

dxb_voice, your argument has the same level of stupidity as R June who calls for a travel ban. Dubai government cannot hold talks with UK government. Any talks will be held by UAE givernment and UK, not Dubai.

Choc Boy, I DO undertstand first world countries very well and tenth world mentatlities such as yours. Stop making assumptions about my background.

June, Let's be honest: being on piligrimage as their lawyer says is a way of "cleaning up" someone's image, which is what lawyers do. As for not showing up in court, that is within UAE law and you can do that if you are a local or expat. It's only a matter of knowing the law and playing to your advantage.

What a sad state of affairs

Erm not everyone gets to leave work early I dont!

Why dont they make it mandatory for cars to have UK plates.. at least a temporary plate, at the entry port itself, so that the owner can be traced? Anyways if no one pays up the fines, impound and auction the car!

I think everyone should hold their horses here. The Court was adjourned until the other two decide to come home/show up etc. so let's just wait and see what happens - you might be pleasantly surprised and if not - more letters!

I think UK govt and Dubai govt can start trading there fines or better still help each other in recoveries. We can see all around us the abandoned cars sometimes in paid parking zones and majority of them owned by Ex British expats. So the two governments can sit together and Dubai can help Brits to get the outstanding fines and British govt can help Dubai to get arrangements for return of unpaid bills / loans and parking fines owed by fleeing Brits :)

June, your ignorance of small but very important things is eating you alive. @crunch, thank you for being fair. It's refreshing to know that there are still rational and open-minded people during this tough time. Ramadan Kareem

Well forgive me Crunch but it is what they are believing and are really confident with it! They are even asking me to convert and they are saying that I will go to hell if I don't! Only Muslims are allowed in heaven and after saying that phrase in Quran, all sins will be forgiven! I just confirm right now with my muslim colleague. But let us not miss the point, that the other two were on thier way to pilgrimage! How did they do that? Well in fact they have some matters on court and not even fixed yet? Well, can somebody explain it in a very brilliant remarks?

I am glad at least some people are not associating this crime with the religion of the accused. There is violent crime every where in the world, but we dont hear about the religious backgrounds of the perpatrators. Obviously no religion condones this behaviour.

Just a question: so what would happen if you are a UK citizen, and put some UAE or other foreign number plates on your car illegally?? hmmm

@Crunch - These things do happen in first world countries yes of course they do. However, the point I was making that in first world countries the culprits are tried and adequately punished for thier crimes. Additionally in over 20 years of living in the UK ive never heard of a pregnant woman being battered over a table dispute in IKEA. Perhaps it would be good for you to understand other first world countries before commenting on them

With all these comments, people are making huge generalisations. Please remember that this is not typical behaviour from Emiratis, who are overwhelmingly polite, respectful and considerate in my experience.

This is a facebook subject not here....ask your "friends"...this is not a matter of National interest as 70% of the people in this country are for the next 15days going to continue late nights gathering...you should enjoy it...the same way you're enjoying the ramadan timings at work...so stop this useless talk and sort it please...

I said the way you talk Crunch sounds like you condone what they did.

I agree just approach nicely and tell them about the problem as they may not realise they are casuing and issue!. If they get funny with you then when it happens again report them to your buildings security!.

The problem is that these cars are not registered in the system. They should be impounded or locked on the spot.

This is bad it should be banned!

Ronson, you are free to criticiz what you want. i am aware of multiple cases where expats have won legal fights against emaratis. There might be individual cases here and there, and of course the system is not perfect, however a lot of these is misconception and just the tendancy to victimize one self on the part of expats.

 Unfortunately you get the attitudes of "this is our country" no matter where you go, from certain individuals! The point here is that these men attacked these people and the law does not seem to be doing anything about it which was proven when 2 of the men were let out of the counrty! Any decent country would be making an example of these people and sending them to prison to teach them that you cant do this to anyone. And as for the people saying that this couple should have moved what planet do you live on?? Just cos there are children sat at one end of a 12 seater table it doesnt mean that parents will be joining them they could have just been sitting there, but anyway the table wasnt theres to reserve. A little word to those who think they are more superior than others YOUR NOT, so grow up and come into the 21st century you arrogant idiots!.

Stace, where did you read that I agree with what these guys did?? can you please look up the meaning of the world despicable, which is what I said about what they did??? Can you please spare me your brilliant remarks.

June, that shows extreme ignorance from your friends side. No God will tell you to do what you want to others and eventually you will be forgiven. What they are missing is that you need the sincere forgiveness of who ever you wronged. People can't go around stepping on others because they are confident that they will be forgiven. It just doesn't work that way.

Crunch....why would one not be allowed to criticize a regimes/courts decision if it justified through a faith or religion? Does it make it a better decision because religion or faith is used to decide guilt and/or punishment? If the culprits are let off citing their pilgrimage and therefore are not convicted even if actually guilty it is a bad decision and a joke. The fact that they went to Mecca is a personal thing and should not influence the courts verdict. You holster your guns there buddy and think things through. If people are afraid that justice is not being upheld it is properly based on the many experiences with the justice system failing to live up to conventional practices in terms of burden of proof, verdicts and punishments. There is no doubt that all expats feel as less in the eyes of the law than Locals and that breeds insecurity and contempt.

that is funny Crunch! lol.. fair enough!

For once Crunch you said something I agree with. From what I have seen in the UK (my home land), when you dont pay a fine and a second is issued the car gets towed. So why not these cars?

day7, it what is this column is all about..gathering more advices what is to be done..but to my own point of view, this is not really a big issue if Desert Rose and her neighbors are in good terms. She can easily approach them and tell them about the noises. Nothing is impossible to be done in a very nice manner and diplomatic behavior talk.

Crunch you talk like you agree with what these guys did??.

Djenkins, read again, in her own words...he was DRUNK! Gentleman or not you do not get into a car when the driver is drunk let alone some random guy you just met at the bar!

I agree with you Crunch..it is just Mr. Tanweers silliness of not making a research first before going.

Face it Crunch! it is the mere fact..and I didn't make fun of what other is believing with! Don't get me wrong as I have friends that are muslims and i grow up with a muslim community! They always imply and very confident of saying it! Every muslim will be going to heaven after saying the phrase in a Quran and embrace the religion and Allah will forgive muslim's sins! Well, I just hope that the Law of Allah will never be ruled in the Law of Mankind in this silly situation! May God forgive me for my phrase but it is the reality that we facing with these three donkies!

Don't see what the big fuss is. why don't they just impound the car??

.. and another genious remark by Choc Boy: As despicable as this act is, these things don't happen in first world countries?? hate crimes?? killing of women and children??

Please see this link (BBC - April 2010). This possibly could have had a bit of an influence on the reasons why. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8646155.stm

I too have a maid. But at times feel it is risky an affair to keep one. But then again it is out of pure necessity that we need to entrust these people.

blah..blah..blah..this is very entertaining and at the same time irratating! Please don't blame the religion of the three bad musketters! It is their manners people! Very rude, and very inhumane! No consideration for others and no proper education! These three are a bunch of MORONS! For sure, this is how they grow up, and they misunderstood the tecahings of thier religion and faith! I wonder who is their Imam is and their PARENTS! Very bad example for their childrens.

It's these differences in culture that makes life worth living. If you can't adapt, just stay home. Besides, it's the responsibility of the travelere to do their homework and find out what they are facing. Plenty of Europe that cater to Muslims, and we cannot deny the christian heritage of the west in the name of tolerance. Again, don't generalize with Tanweer's comments. he is rather the exception and not the rule. Reminds of American traveleres whne they land in any country, the first thing they look for is a McDonald's ;)

what I mean is that we should be more sensible to act in a SENSIBLE MANNER to save ourselves when faced by Insane individuals. They may be stronger physically and incase we can't fight back we end up getting hurt. Especially when an unborn's life is at stake. These people may not see sense at all. So back off immediately when you see a bull charging towards you.

R June, the only joke is you. There is no need to make fun of others' beliefs. Besides, who are you to say what will be forgiven and what will not??

ive seen this for myself, arabs hob nobbing it about london like they are something special, above the law. But to be fair its not just people from the arab world its anyone with money in the UK. Footballers are the worst and they are mainly from the UK

This problem is faced by all and sundry every where in the worls who ever is not living on the top most floor. Be it day or night. So here it is not a out of the blue kind of thing. Day7 is right; sort it out with your neighbours instead of writing to the newspapers. Not a very big deal. There are more important issues lying to be solved......

It is the most hideous act of atrocity against a helpless animal.It should be banned for good.

Once again another example of disgraceful but typical behaviour by a small contingent of UAE nationals. As expats we need to remember that behind the facade of flash buildings, fancy apartments and a big fountain this place is a third world country. 

At least impose a travel ban for the owners until they can pay the fine...they are very strict on imposing fines here, they should be treated the same outside UAE too!

For sure after their trip to Saudi as what on the previous report, (they were on the pilgrim to Mecca), they will be forgiven...such a joke!

I don't mind bull fighting as long as they prepare the fighters in the same way as they prepare the bulls.

Eddie, they are doing it and getting away with it.

Tow them! Don't give it back until they pay up in cash!

how disgusting! all of you that think it is ok to beat up on a pregnant lady...shame on you!!!...nowhere else in the world would this be tolerated! and no it does not bloody happen in our countries. absolutely revolting! if those three buggers get off without jail time....i hope the UN or some other NGO intervenes..!! something should be done...it probably wont...but still does not hurt to say it.

If the culprit had kissed her face instead of merely punching it in, maybe justice would have been served. Let's put things into perspective here.

whether they are convicted or not depends on who they are. I have lived here for many years and I am still to see punishment matching the crime when it is Local violating an expat. I hope this time i will be proven wrong and justice is actually performed. I wonder what the violators wives are thinking of the whole matter.

WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ARE THEY? THEY ARE INHUMAN... REGARDLESS OF NATIONALITIES BUT THEY'RE ACTION IS INHUMAN... IM SURE THEY LIVE IN A DESSERT AREA WITH NO EDUCATION AND UNCIVILIZED PERSON.. OR ELSE THEY LIVE IN A JUNGLE... LIKE ANIMALS... BUT AT LEAST SOME ANIMALS IF THEY WERE TRAINED THEY RESPECT AND PROTECT THEIR MASTERS... BUT THESE PEOPLE WERE RAISED BY THE DEMONS OR DEVILS.. ESPECIALLY HITTING A PREGNANT WOMAN.. IM SURE THEY USED TOO OF THAT LIFE OF HITTING THEIR WIVES OR THEIR CHILDREN.. THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE RAISED UP WITH THEIR PARENTS.. BRUTALITY IN OTHER WORDS.. AND TAKE NOTE THEY ARE MUSLIMS AND TO THINK OF IT, ITS THEIR RAMADAN.. THEY SHOULD BE HOLY, FORGIVING AND HUMILITY TO OTHERS..

Oh dear, can't just do what you want outside the UAE, fellas'

Yes, because banks are stupid and utterly idiotic in their dealings

Nah, it's more fun to moan and moan about things isn't it ;)

if they can do this in public, imagine what they will do in their own space? hars punishment and hundreds of hours community service in hospital dealing with pregant ladies will give them the lesson! and to top of it, they will bear all the cost of the rest pregnancy period including delivery! Let see if justice prevail...

So, this is a wind up then ...

These guys deserve a mighty kick in, think they have been watching too many macho movies, who on earth do they think they are? Sadly, nothing will happen but people like this need an example set, utterly disgraceful behaviour

RESHRAC, what are you on about? Are you attempting to be the first to go down the line of "they should have moved" cause that's what it sounds like it's frankly ridiculous. I did how long before someone would say that though so well done on that

Weather in Europe gets a raw deal, not sure what the problem is, love a bit of rain, love it when it rains here. Summers are just too much, bit of rain would go a long way, it's not like you can go to the beach in the summer anyway, far too hot :/ Anyway, I digress!

No, he thinks people are buying in the East End purely cause of the Olympics "Oh, look, Olympics, let's buy a flat" seemingly oblivious to the whole re-generation and additions to the community that will be long-lasting. Of course no one would buy a place in Sports City 'just cause' there would be an Olympics as no one would buy in the East End 'just for that' either

Who cares who goes to heaven and who doesn't, what an utterly pointless argument and absolutely nothing to do with what has happened here

Shouldn't you direct your concerns to your neighbors rather than news paper readers ?

The correct avenue would have been the municipality it self, just hoping for action doesn't make it so, unless you're trying to rally for a petition before you approach the municipality. I just hope they don't take it too far, make sure your dogs are not allowed to roam in residential areas unattended..good idea...make up some strict leash laws...overkill...now I can't name examples but we all know alot of the goverment in Dubai can get ridiculously creative.

It is an African thing ...

Typical just typical! These people think they are important no matter where they go!

Im sorry to sound rude but the Muslim culture is catered for above and beyond in the West so what is the moaning about?.

Id like to know what "the fast lane" is?? As far as I was aware they were called over taking lanes and if you werent over taking you shouldnt be in them? right?. Please correct me if im wrong.

Well, Guess there were witnesses and this isn't another Dubai Mall fiasco..but wait..what? June?...

or alternatively, go to Ikea (avoid the cafe obviously) and buy them some pads yourself, they aren't that expensive. we did it for our neighbours and hey presto, the problem disappeared and no ill-will between us.

I faced the same issue just like you. Several pleas went unheeded for the past few years now & this problem is on daily basis especially between midnight to 4am. Well, now I sleep with ear plugs & hoping this neighbour from hell will go away. Having said that I have only 8 months to go before leaving Dubai. Yeepee!!!

Timbo BIMBO.... you can do the dutch and just peg out... would you pleeeaaaaase? shukran!

RoseinDubai..... try the DOGPOUND... you will see a lot there working hard to humiliate and harrass people for money that will never be theirs... they will just bark and tell you, this is my work... and so the banks are silent... haha woooof! woooof!

has the EMIRATI SOLDIER gone for HAJ ALSO?! hahahahahahaha

The point here is, a pregnant lady was beaten with her husband by THREE EMIRATE MUSLIMS and then had the LIBERTY TO GO FOR HAJ?!! 

20 bucks nothing, absolutely nothing happens to the perpetrators of this disgusting act! So much for a Holy month... In other things, how could people just stand there and watch while a man was being beaten and his pregnant wife assaulted? IF, there was anyone at the cafe at the time (including employees, or other visitors) this case goes to show that Dubai residents and nationals (regardless of skin colour, religion, etc.) form a poor community to live in, who cares if you drive an Aston Martin or a Bentley, if you are so callous to not help your neighbor when in need... So sad.

hello u guys r bothered about doga what about those poor workers who r treated like them!

Sorry to hear that Mate...but welcome to dubai! this is the way the rules of the land are...and this is the way your hard earned money will be taken away....there is only one rule thats no Rule! cheers.....

Something doesn't add up: she gets in a car with a drunk person driving, goes to the desert where he rapes her the first time, then lets him drive her back home, go togther to her apartment, and rapes her again.!!!

So many such cases are coming up,Why????

@captain nemo and anyone else who thinks there is such a thing as a Fast Lane, Slow Lane or Medium Speed Lane... your command of the English language leaves much to be desired my friend as Thumper already pointed out! ;-) A road / carriageway / highway consists of a lane or a number of lanes flowing in opposite directions in fact. Therefore to be dumb enough to state fast lane this or slow lane that spells out you are ignorant to the rules of the road / highway code! Lane discipline is pathetic here and the sooner patrol cars start 'pinging' people for undertaking as done in the UK we will all have to take a chance on a numpty like you creeping up on the inside because you think I am not entitled to be in that particular lane, PS you can travel at the speed limit in the furthest right lane as well as the furthest left... same same but different???? 

I think people have gone mad here, Tanveer,I know they dont provide such services parposely,If hotels want they can fit a pipe next to the toilets,Cleaning your self with a tissue is very un-hygeinic. Pepole who are saying Muslim way of slautering aminals,I would say you are wrong,Research on it. & Tanveer you must have researched on hotels in Europe,I am sure there would be hotels who can provide a muslim with his atleast his basic needs.

Elsuwaidi - Ban them all! what an intelligent comment, ok lets do that and say bye bye to most european/western expats. Im sure Dubai will just do fine without expats & toursists! - - - - YEAH RIGHT!!!!

Falcon 1. No sorry you were talking about East London/East End of London being a bad choice ref investement. I lived and worked in the East End/East of London for 20 years, I have purchased property in Stratford East London/East End of london because of the Olympic games which has had a 26% positive yield on my equity!. So please talk to someone who knows about the East End of London/East London, as you clearly need more information. Dear Oh Dear!

This is Dubai guys, rules are made to be fooled and these guys take advantage of people distress. The govt is getting the fees for: business registration, employees visas, their cars taxes, Salik, etc... so they dont bother doing the due deligence. Just like banks. Who cares as far as it brings money. An estimated 20% of registred businesses in Dubai are none added value to the real economy but they are not surveyed by the authorities. This is more visible in crisis situation. To the guys looking for jobs, only talk to well known recruiting companies and dont hesitate to name and shame the croocks

So just because of the hot climate which lasts around 4 months out of 12 is too much for most that means dogs have no place in society here in Dubai? Children aged less thanone year old also cannot adapt to the heat here so does this mean no-one has a baby?? For goodness sake! A dog is for life not just for winter! I have a dog and he is none the wiser to know that other countries are cooler so why would he be stressed sleeping on a cold tiled floor in a/c and get regular walks first thing in the morning and at night when it is cooler. he is actually very smart and would probably outshine alot of people with residence visas living here! Best place to walk your dog is where ever you like, buy a roll of poop bags and simply pick up when they do it! Having said this, I do not condone the keeping of dogs documented as "dangerous" I am talking about little pooches and like minded well behaved and trusted dog breeds. Those wanting to walk about with a Pit Bull on their arm go down the York instead!

Crunch - whatever ! macho or not ! being a bride in jail because he protected his pregnant wife and himself from being beaten up ??? where is Your sense in morality ? I guess In his place when someone asks You to move from a table with Your wife halfway into Your dinner , You would just tuck Your tail between Your legs and slither away . Right ? Pathetic .

Best of luck and more nerves. You should be more carefull and never trust any bankers, property brokers or anybody trying to sell anything to you in Dubai in the future.

AAA Ali you appear to be an apologist for your religion. Firstly , what I have mentioned is part of Islamic belief. So instead of spending time reading about the council of nicea of which I am quite aware of, may be you should read about your own religion which i assume from your name is Islam. In Christianity, salavtion is through Christ so if you believe in Christ all your sins are forgiven. As you should be aware in Islam that is not the case , even if you are Muslim , you can still end up going to hell. Why dont you turn your venom on those people who have written in with sarcastic remarks about the accused going on pilgrimage? Or are you afraid that you wont be popular? So much for talking rubbish.....

Disney world needs some support. So please pay. The best I heard was the story of the guy that did never own a car and wa requested to pay a fine. This person only uses taxi or company drivers. the only relation he had with RTA was a driving licence swap. Is this the criteria for RTA to issue fines? Who knows?

Abrarraja: This only works if there is actually space to move into. I have seen people flashing at others to move over when the next lane is also full, so there is no space to move into. In that case, it is just rude and bad driving. Stace: You are right that is not rocket science! It is easy to do so why do so many people choose not to? It is because they are lazy and can't be bothered to manouevre their vehicle. This will only change if police start enforcing correct driving technique. Unfortunately people like the letter writer above don't even realise that it is dangerous so it looks like it will take a long time to change.

It does make sense. She assumed he was being a gentleman and offering to give her a lift home. How was she to know that he intended to rape her? She could not have known that and the vast majority of men would never even consider raping anyone so it is extremely unlikely. Plus he wasn't a complete stranger, they had spoken at the bar, as it states in the report. He must have come across as trustworthy at the start. Only later did his true character emerge. Obviously she took a risk getting in the car and this was naive but to say it doesn't make sense is disingenuous at best.

Phoenix3 - may be Dubai depends on tourism for its livelyhood but it doesnt mean that Europe too. London is the biggest tourist economy in the world but it is also the busiest business centre in the world. Even if Arabs boycott Europe - it doesnt matter dear cause their economy doesnt need us but we need them - yep where do you think those Merc and Ferraris and Lambos and Audis come from. Oh yes and let not forget the ladies and their shopping and the rich with their horse racing etc lifestyle that they cant get here. And then you have people like little old me who want a change from this miserable weather and environment and a change of mentality. They can put what they want in hotel rooms - it hasnt bothered me all these years and what is the issue of having a Bible in every hotel room in Christian Countries. After all we are shoving our agenda down everyones throat some religious, some cultural and some only God knows until the West is so confused about Islam and Islamist. Infact even I am confused despite years of reading and learning as we have so many versions of verbal Islam and so many versions of practised Islam and every Ahmed, Salum, Moza and Fawzia knows better than the Good Books and the Hadiths. Read what DearDilu wrote - first line - its what people get in Islamic Country.

With all due respect RESHRAC....out of respect for your religion and plight this month i will not eat or drink in front of your face but that in no way means i will refrain from eating and drinking in the privacy of my own car.

Actually the biggest problem are the road hogs - yep they sit from 2nd lane onwards driving leisurely as though they are on a road picnic. 

Daily Bugle - please read history of Constantine and the Council of Nicea regarding how a man became the son of god for political reason and the invention of triamvate - yes all man made - so what to do with God.

Hey Daily Bugle - do not talk rubbish here regardingotherpeoples faith. How do you know what God forgives or doesnt. Cant stand people who talk rubbish about other peoples faith.

@Chocolate Boy: What views??!! that beating up a pregnant woman is wrong? surprise surprise I agree with you...The only thing you ppl here are doing is talking about things you know absolutely nothing about...any way Ill keep reading your "views" not because I respect them but because I find it very entertaining... especially the if you don't like it leave part...weird how expats are saying that to locals now LOOL!

Gotta luv the tough talk from Choc Boy.I'm sure if you did as u claim you can, you would end up as someone's bride in Jail !!!

So, hang on, a foreigner cant pay his credit card so is banished to jail to try and work out how he can plucked from the immigration lounge when he leaves the airport, but three men can open up on a pregnant woman, but go on a pilgrimage? I hope they are judged when they find what they are looking for.

Hay people lets get down to the basics. Firstly no one will let anyone bash up a pregnant lady. Even if such an indident has taken place I am sure there would have been the staff or other by standers available to rescue the damsel in distress. But if this table was resereved why the hell did they insist on not moving and avoid such a tordid attack. We should have more sense to protect the unborn and not expect the same from others. All dont think alike. Save ourselves first before making it an ego problem. Let sanity prevail. Even if the person infront is insane.

Firstly, agencies work for the clients, not the candidates and secondly you should never, ever pay any agency to 'register' with them, it's highly immoral and I believe illegal in some western countries ... some companies are allowed to run free doing that here. Advertise fake job, charge candidates ... finished.

What a bunch of cowards, utterly pathetic individuals

Again, typical case of hearing one side and jumping to all kinds of conclusions!! Good to see that chivalry hasn't died :)). Things are really slow in Ramadan...BTW, this happens in your countries too as well as mine.

This is reason number 12 to leave this place. Never anywhere in the world do I feel so unprotected by the law and country. Many people I meet ( and I do working for an airline ) say never again to Dubai. What an uncomfortable place to live in.

its not a matter whatever nationalities u are but what really matters is, why they did to a pregnant woman.. always take into consideration to others what if if their wives happen same thing with that canadian woman.. how does they feel? so, its in human and they are like animals... but at least animals if they are ur pet, they will respect and obey their masters... anyway, whatever our religion is, we are accountable ourselves to God whatever we did (bad or good) to our fellow men at the end of our life...

Mr.Tanweer can u pls tell your people in the UAE to stop torturing the innocent expatriates who come here to earn a living for their families, they should not punish people who by mistake eat or drink during Ramadan because Ramadan is also in my country but no one bothers us to stop eating n drinking instead they serve us at hotels as they are true muslims, they don't abusive while driving to get home to break their fast. The muslims in the offices do not treat non muslims badly especially during this period but what is happening here in your country. Don't say u can leave cause I have adjusted to this lifestyle over so many years, so is this your way of providing us suffering because we chose to live here. I and my family are law abiders but what do we get from it. If we tell the truth and its against an emirati we get shoved in the prison and treated badly for not doing anything wrong, can u justify this and ask your countrymen why they are treating us so badly for no fault of ours, but if u r an emirati you can go free even it is a murder case right ???? I ASK FOR JUSTICE IN YOUR COUNTRY CAN U CATER FOR THIS.

please try to not stereotype everybody in this scenario. What happened is truly unjustified. But wherever we go, we will always have people that behave in this manner. People attack people for no reason! My thoughts are with the family who went through this. All we can do with people that act like this is feel sympathetic towards them. In these situations, they will eventually pick on the wrong person. As a English man living here, and having Emiratee friends, they are as shocked and disgusted as we all feel. They too dont want to be tarnished as selfish and rude. its always a small few that ruin it for us all.

Drive properly and sit in the furthest lane to the right unless you are overtaking someone then once you are done over taking move back over to the right. Its not rocket science!!

This doesnt make sense why would you get into a car with a stranger let alone a drunk stranger?. Surely there was people around who she could of turnt to for help?.

This is disgusting and I totally beleive it. If there were any witness's they have probabily been threated to not give a statement or be punished!. What sort of country allows people to leave when they are due in court? 

My point or rather points are as follows: 1. Tanweer was not asking for too much but it seemed from the response of most posters as if he was. 2. Muslims and Asians are a significant proportion of the World's population and increasingly they have the money to be able to afford to go anywhere. It is in the European countries interest to cater to their needs. 3. Some posters compared Tanweer's situation to the situation of a tourist interested in visiting Saudi Arabia. So does it mean that when in comes to tourism or openness the European countries should benchmark themselves to KSA? 4. All we ask is for some empathy is that so difficult? Tanweer faced difficulties and wanted to air them, is that not the point of the Letters?

This thing is just a joke. I'm sorry but I have trouble digesting this, first of all if they had 3 kids and then 3 men. The 12 chair table just doesn't add up, secondly why would a man and his wife (pregnant or not) sit at a 12 seater place? I'm not sure what to believe and what not to, although my local friends are a jolly bunch but I have recently see a lot of hate towards expats and western expats too. I am not sure what's happening here, but PEOPLE don't give in a verdict before you have seen the evidence

Its better you move out of fast lane,Whatever speed the other car is coming you have to give it way if you are in fast lane. I have seen many people just dont care to give way to someone who behind them,and because of them one has to undertake.

@nothin2du - this is what the page is for, a place to share our views. if you dont like reading others views or opinions dont log on..

phoenix; there are 2 billion nominal Christians in the world, what's your point? It's not even an argument, you're just randomly spouting random facts. Sheer numbers are irrelevant, what numbers is the proportion of both the population and tourists in these countries. Going on your theory the Islamic world should adopt Christian cultural and social norms as "we" outnumber you 2-to-1. If you're going to make a legitmate point, make it - and stop waffling.

sense the tone...

Chocboy, i'll be there at your back cheering at you! hurrray for chocboy! hep hep! hurray! lol

you ppl are funny...all the macho ppl saying "I wish I was there"...the other fools who start sentences with "in my country" and finally the ppl who come out and start saying two rules system and other nonsense and baseless comments...

@chocboy...as you write the book, please set up a website also so that we can can share our agonies as well.. one more year Dubai, and I'm gone! and if I will come back here, mmmmmm...let me think it over again... cheers people!!!

First of all, chocolate Boy - I'd be right behind you and enjoying the consequences of the those being carted off in ambulances - preferably with broken knee caps. 

Have to agree with bubbles on this one! We have heard these stories before and yet people still dont learn? You cant have enough common sense to fall for some of these howlers.

Once again @chocboy! i agree with your sentiments and will join you in roundhouse kicking the culprits, and i dont do tae-kwon-do!

And they call themselves moslems? And they are celebrating RAMADAN this month. Brothers, I believe in Islam TOLERANCE must be great especially on this month's occasion. And in Islam RESPECT FOR ELDERS, WIDOWS, LADIES, CHILDREN AND ORPHANS is a must as taught by the prophet Mohammad (PBUH). What is going on in this world? Salam Alaikum to all of you.

totally agree with you stace.

In the eyes of the accused this case is already finished, the very fact they have been allowed to leave the country is clear evidence of that. If I had been present in Ikea at this time I would have had no hesitation but to intervene and given that I'm an ex UK national Taekwondo champion I can confidently say these three men would have left Ikea in an ambulance rather than police car. Let us all hope that next time these cowards approach someone that knows how to defend themselves!!

Sadly, What an example set out to their children who were sitting at the other end of the table.

I love when people ask others to adapt and then complain that what a pain it is not to be able to do things that they take for granted in their own countries such as walking in a public place wearing a bikini etc. etc. Muslims currently number around 1.6 bn which is higher than the population of Europe. So some of the commentators are not asking one person to adapt but more than 20% of the world's population to do so. UAE despite its shortcomings tries to its best when trying to adapt to the demands / tastes of the foreigners. European countries should start doing so as well before it is too late. But then again it is the old colonial mentality isn't it, the right kind of locals are the ones that have evolved to the higher standard of the Europeans!! Guys like Tanweer who demand for such things as an arrow pointing towards the Mecca or just a washbasin are just backward folk who should go back to their caves.

this clearly shows that Dubai is not an ideal place for tourism.

For the record, if the accused have gone for pilgrimage now, it wont be for Haj as that is only once a year which falls in November this year. Secondly God forgives sins against him but will forgive sins against other living creatures if they first forgive . So unlike Christianity where you are guaranteed paradise if you believe in Christ, people like Hitler would not be so fortunate under Islam.

Ditto you have a valid point, almost jumped on the bandwagon there. If I can give the Dubal Mall exotic dancer a chance I sure can to these guys...where are the witnesses? Still a bit confused on how they can let accused in an on going case leave the country though, if they're emiratis and guilty..no way they're coming back..they can go anywhere they want.

So with the exception of Hummel, everyone here decided to approach the tone of the letter rather than the actual content, don't deny it alot of you replied with an equal amount of venom. ...honestly its like you're waiting to lynch someone. Apologies to anyone besides hummel who actually had something of value to say..I just got bored once the majority decided to take a swing.

@phoenix3..not all hotels in west are having Bibles in their rooms as what Mr. Tanweer implied. It depends on the hotel management if they will allow it or not! Maybe it happens that the hotel he stayed in is accepting the Bible copies from Gideon. The main point is, he is so pathetic! Why he didn't make any research before embarking such holiday??? Stop blaming Europeans and Westerners for their diplomatic and very liberated culture ! We cant just simply ask for such amneties specifically for one person just because of his religion. The core factor is ADAPTIBILITY! If you don't have this attitude, then stay in your own country and rot!

I thought so too Nemo, But its also an informal term: undertaking n 4. (Engineering / Automotive Engineering) Informal the practice of overtaking on an inner lane a vehicle which is travelling in an outer lane Collins English Dictionary, Complete and Unabridged, HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

good job captain nemo! i like that! please define overtaking as well..kidding! lol

Pretty bad! My deepest apology for the Hong Kong government and its sovereign people. I myself is a Filipino, and I know it will create a great negative impact on the bilateral relationship of both countries, but we, the Filipino overseas are expecting that these will be resolve soon and justice will be serve for the victims. What a shame and we know that it is too much to ask, but we are hoping that it will not be a threat to others to visit our beloved country. And we are very optimistic that the Hong Kong government will still be fair on dealing Filipino expats in Hong Kong. God bless and we pray for peace and comfort for the families of the victims.

I'm sure they will get out scott free. I wonder if u commit a crime then go for haj yr sins r forgiven n u can get away with any crime after all.

Best one I got was a phone call from the RTA demanding payment for Salik fines for a car that I'd owned back in early 2003 that had been written off (Salik didn't exist then, of course). The phone call came in last year when I purchased a new car and applied for Salik. I was told by Dubai Police not to worry about it and quite frankly, I'm not.

It will be just like this.."shut up and apologies common community law, this their country not ours".. such a joke if they will tolerate this kind of manners only for morons!

Bashing a pregnant woman? If this had happened in my country, these three men would have left Ikea in an ambulance and would be eating through a straw for the next year

To Illuminatus and Falcon1 pleased to see your on board with the book idea, I honestly think it would be great insight into the "real" Dubai we have all experienced in the last few years. For one my family find these pages highly amusing and sometimes shocking but most of all informative

scum bags , what are the chances of the culprits being given a sentence that fits the crime , slim to nothing

please refrain from using the word undertaking this is not correct , the correct phrase should be overtaking in the slow lane. definition of undertaking PLEASE READ Undertake Un`der*take", v. t. [imp. Undertook; p. p. Undertaken; p. pr. & vb. n. Undertaking.] [Under + take.] 1. To take upon one's self; to engage in; to enter upon; to take in hand; to begin to perform; to set about; to attempt. [1913 Webster]

Hmmmmm story sounds a bit fishy... Really dont think anyone would attack a heavily pregnant woman so brutally esp in this country esp by adult Emiratis....Sorry I just don't believe it. Oh!! and where are the witnesses???

Name & Shame!!!

Well I'm sure all will be forgiven for the two defendants who trotted off to Saudia for their pilgrimage.

If this ends in a minor fine and a slap on the wrist, or worse yet nothing at all its time to move. How were they allowed to go on a pilgrimage? Is it just me or is there something in the law that says you can't leave the country when you're due for trial...secondly..I don't get the concept...beat up a pregnant lady and her husband over a couple of tables...then go on a pilgrimage for the soul...

They don't "care" because they are not Muslim countries. Why should they "care"? You say everyone knows bla bla bla. No they don't. They don't know because they are not Muslims and the majority of their customers are not either, and if the majority of their Muslim customers were like you (thank goodness they are not!) they wouldn't want them to be customers. Why should the whole world adapt to you?

How exactly can a hotel cater to every single religion or culture. Some countries dont even use toilets, they use a drop hole, should the hotels cater to their needs too? FYI, Tanweer, it is not your right to ask for these 'special' amenities as you have said in your letter. Perhaps European countries are actually trying to protect their culture which is fast being taken over by Muslims. The whole point of going on holiday is to experience different cultures... have you not realised that. Happy hosing in your own toilet!

Timbo, he is not on holiday in Spain, His wife is Spanish. That's where she lives. No the banks do not have the right to "create unbearable tensions" in people's lives. How is creating extreme stress going to make people pay back money that they don't have. The banks have to behave in a civilised manner and work with their customers to create a SOLUTION so everyone wins. Otherwise people will keep absconding because they have no choice. Yes there are some people who are thieves but the majority are just ordinary people who have been caught out by a horrible antiquated system. YOU CANNOT PAY OFF DEBTS FROM JAIL.

Next time just Google the recruiters name,then you'll find out if it's ok or not. Asking money from jobseekers is by UAE forbidden, but they practise their scam for years. Guess the Police is too busy with other issues.

Beat up a pregnant woman risk the life of a child and go to Haj - tick Shameful

oh c'mon really?? Did you not realise you were being scammed. Perhaps it's a blessing you dont have a job. Serious lack of common sense missing............

I see a weak "don't do this again my dears" to the 3 accused, followed by deportation of the Canadian couple for not immedately obeying the Emariti's demands. Lets see what sort of "mickey mouse" sentence is passed down to the 3 unfortunate accused...

hahaha i know that agency, i myself was called in for an interview that took less than 2 minutes and quickly had they asked for a reg fee of 150 AED for perks such as training and seminars. Just for the heck of it, i did "enrolled" myself, and heard nothing from them! at least now, i KNOW! asking money is the "CORE" of their business!! thats how they fund their full page ads on the dailies!

wat a bunch of douchebags tarnishing their country's image!

OMG what really shucks me is that fact that there were on a pilgrimage in Saudi Arabia?! for what?! i think you all know the answer! hahahaha 

Good luck to Mr. Warner and his Family. I really wish him peace of mind, now that he is out of UAE and away from these "ANIMALS" and some of the few people who thinks that by judging him, makes the better person out of them.

Say what - Okay now we are reduced to punching pregnant women and then claim to be on pilgrimage in the Holy Land. What sad and delusional individuals who have shamed us all and no they are not Muslims just mannerless.

welcome to the UAE - how to make everyone feel welcome ....... these guys are an embarassment to the UAE and I hope the Canadians ensure they get justice.

There is no chance of getting any justice against these people!

Hopefully they'll be convicted of assault here and won't be eligible to get a Visa to Canada...

If cars only overtake, you always know which side cars are coming from, plus you have better visibility on that side so accidents are less likely. You are right that not everyone has good spatial awareness, which is why undertaking is dangerous. The answer is not to make undertaking legal but to ensure that everyone drives in the right-most lane expect when overtaking.

DO NOT CRUISE IN THE FAST LANE!! :D

well........every country says that "if you want to stay...get used to our rules". so i do not see the argument here...its obvious if you travel to another place with a different culture and society...you have to abide by their rules since you are an expat. ADAPTABILITY goes a long way...we adapt to the rules over here....so Tanweer...if you are in another country...don't try to change their thinking coz people have been trying that and it doesnt work so suck it up and move on :)

A pregnant women ?.. This is sick. If this happen in London this would be a totally different story.

If I was Canadian, I would get the identities of these culprits from the courts or Police, and forward them to the Canadian Embassy and consulate in Dubai, in case they ever apply for visa for holidays in NA... I hope they do get the visa, then they can arrive in lovely Canada, and be given 'Royal Treatment', courtesy of the RCMP. That will be an appropriate payback!

Phoenix; first of all ignore The Daily Mail, it's no less of a xenophobic troll than Tatween is currently being. Considering no such charity currently practices this, your strawman argument doesn't even have any straw in it. Hotels are businesses, they cater to their clientele. The UAE collectively has a significantly large non-Muslim population, however in Europe the proportion of Muslims to non-Muslims is far smaller, ergo there's little incentive for them to supply something for which there appears to be little demand. Now someone politely requesting that arrangements be made for them (if possible) to accomodate their faith is perfectly acceptable, however if Tatween's letter is anything to go on he's almost certainly an obnoxious little oik who rudely demands that everything be made to accomodate him. Lastly, in no way shape or form does Europe "depend on tourists money from the Arabs, Chinese and the Indians to survive"; if you had any shred of intelligence you'd be able to find out basic information such as that 70-80% of European trade is within the EU. Is it a useful source of income? I'm sure it is, but unless people go out of their way to request such things they're not going to be provided. However if faced with an incredibly rude guest who churns out both verbal and written diarrhoea, don't be surprised if they ignore him. As others have said, you wish to visit the part of the world then expect to have to adapt to the cultural and religious norms. If you're unable to, well don't let the door hit on the ass on the way out.

Dr, Who's talking about just East London? We were talking about value of a property by location and laws to protect your investment. If we were to use your logic, then by that tokem,if Dubai was to host Olmpics or Asian Games in, say the next 10-15 years, will that make you rush to buy a propert in Sports City? I don't think so! So you are from the UK, but not exacly from the East End of London? Dear oh dear! lets hear from someone who actually comes from that area who can speak for it!

The proper agencies work of a paid fee either via commission on a speculative basis or a flat fee based on being hired to look by the employer. Under no circumstance hand money to these 'agencies' as they have NO intention of looking and should be closed down, but hey! that means someone here needs to do something about it! FAT CHANCE!

Falcon 1 - O-L-Y-M-P-I-C Games!!! 2012 Stratford East London! DO YOUR HOMEWORK or better still let someone who knows better invest and make a killing! Rather than talking about the East of London as if its one grubby street!...dear oh dear! Some of us actually come from the UK rather than talk about it!

@Chocboy: I am so on your level its unreal...there are so many things that a book can be written.

Ah the indicating saga, people dont indicate here because they dont want people to know where they are going so they can get there 1st. Just like when I indicate to change lanes the person in that lane always speeds up so I cant come over. Its funny Ive never experienced this in any other country just here!!. Can someone please tell me why people do this? And im sorry but it never seems to be westerners doing this to me so I think road safety and manners need to given to other road users!!.

Errol is back! Go Errol hahaha Ive never been to any brunches that have rowdy people, people having fun and laughing yeah but not rowdy or really loud!. Maybe you should select a better venue Errol!!.

I don't know what this guy is on about. Everyone in this country is fasting during Ramadan. We have no choice in the matter. We're not allowed to eat/drink/smoke/whatever during Ramadan in public, so where is your argument coming from?

I too am against animals being kept in small yards or apartments, but there are ways around it if you are a responsible pet owner. I have a beautiful boxer dog named Rufus and we take him to the beach with us every friday morning when we go Jetskiing. Even in this heat, Rufus has a ball of a time. We just make sure he has enough water at all times and always has shade (like a Gazebo). At home we have a medium sized garden and Rufus has access to the house and yard 24-7. If he needs to cool down, he goes indoors, if he wants to warm up, he goes outside. Don't just say that animals don't belong here etc. When you buy a pet it's more than just an animal, it's a companion in your home with your family. You need to be a responsible pet owner, very much like being a parent. You need to take care of your pet, give it nutrition, love, attention and excercise for it to be happy. If you are not willing to take your pet out every day for a dog or walk around the block, then you should not have a pet. Rufus is cared for and it shows when you see him.

I for one agree with Tanweer. Someone mentioned that the Bibles in the room are kept by the Gideon Society - tell me if a charity sponsored by UAE / KSA were to keep the Koran in every hotel room, how many hotels would agree? Other people gave the shining examples of Iran and KSA. So are you saying that what these countries are doing is fine and UAE should follow suit? Heaven forbid if an European gets arrested here for drunken behavior or for fornicating in the beach - "look at those backward people" screams Daily Mail and its ilk. Yet a person asking for something which he considers to be essential is supposed to have a huge chip on his shoulders!!! On one hand European countries depend on tourists money from the Arabs, Chinese and the Indians to survive, yes survive and yet they go ahead with preaching to them that if you want to be allowed entry, you better get used how we treat you.

When people sit in the overtaking lane not over taking people doing 80kmph then I will undertake!.

Sorry to hear of yet more phantom fines I would say dont have a car here unless you really need one. We all rant and rave about Dubai (me also), but I have now learnt not to get myself so wound up about the stupid one sided laws and some of the stupid ppl here. I now enjoy my friends, the weather, the good scenery and when I leave in 18 months time I will know to only come back for holidays in future!.

Try Charterhouse Partnership. They ask for nothing (from the applicant), but they give the best jobs. I know, coz I was a Charterhouse candidate too.

The competency of the workers is the direct responsibility of the organization that employees them. In addition to external independent bodies, some companies do absolutely nothing to police themselves; 1) Realistic HSE policies, 2) Educating and training employees, and 3) Enforcing their own standards. Accidents in the UK don't automatically place equal responsibility on the employer and employee, only if it's found to be an accident for which neither is found wanting in.

its not such a biig issue abiding by the rules...i keep the crazy bit for when i go out for vacation!! how hard is that :)

its people like this numnut who create bigger barriers just for religion...something known as adaptability... in this part of the world we are expected to abide by the rules...ive been doing so for 21 years...that policy abiding to the rules of islam isnt going to work all over the world you know. although considering the fact that Dubai is an islamic country it is pretty easy going. if we shout out like that in KSA we'd probably be locked up! :D

i am a fresh graduate and ive been looking for a job for the past 2 months...the ones who do not take any money from you are probably the best bet...do correct me if im wrong! :)

Whilst I could understand someone from elsewhere making the mistake of paying an agency, find it a little odd that anyone who's here already would make the mistake of paying one. I wouldn't pay an agency anywhere in the world, the moment they ask for cash you know they're not legitimate - so why bother?

There are places. I take my two for long runs to several locations. You just need to think a bit.

ChocBoy You and I are on the same track, let me know if you want to collaborate on the thesis. Who knows, we may be able to recover some of our losses (and get some satisfaction at the same time) by making some money off the book!? Poetic justice indeed!

Its a shame your attitude is a little angry but I can understand your views because I feel the same about some things in the UAE. Like I cant buy meat that isnt Halal so I have to put up with it even tho I dont agree with the way the animal is killed for food. I have to pay double the price for a glass of wine. I dont get a bible when I stay in a hotel here the list goes on but I except that I am not in my home country so things are different. Many things westerners want are available here which we are very lucky for just like in the west we cater for different nationalities/religions and as many people have said research before you go on holiday and book your hotels, Not every hotel can cater for everyone!. Happy Holidaying!.

djenkins99 - I agree wholeheartedly with your comments, the only thing id say is that even when proper regulation and protection are brought into this place it wont ever be as adequate as in the UK. It will take 20 years or more to return to what we saw in 2005/2006, a new generation of people that are not aware of the distinct lack of protection and even outright fairness

On second thought, Good luck to this man and his family.

Tanweer this letter is so small minded it makes me sick to my core. How dare you make over exaggerated comments, sweeping statements and imply that Europe isn't civilized merely because people didn't know the direction of Qibla. You are more than likely the same type of person that complains about Europeans drinking at brunches and so forth; if you want to behave in Europe exactly like you do here, why cant Europeans expect to do the same here? Let me offer you some advice, before you go traveling to other countries I suggest you do some research first and then decide if it is suitable for your needs. I then suggest if you consider Europe uncivilized then you stay in the UAE. Then you would do well to get a life, get some education and keep your mouth closed about things you clearly know nothing about.

Nolly, I share your pain! I have paid the same parking fine from 2005 THREE TIMES!! The last time I paid it in 2008, I kept a receipt of the payment in my files and had to show it everytime I went to pay my fines because the darn fine kept reappearing! Finally, I sold my car and got a new one. Was a very frustrating annual experience!

I agree Falcon, I have seen it all in Dubai phantom fines, DEWAS bills increased by a factor of three, my pregnant wife made terminated from work with no explanation. The rules in this country are a joke and I could not agree with you more when you say trying to make sense of things which defy logic is futile. For me I am just fed up here, I am leaving Dubai for ever at the end of November and it cannot come quickly enough. Once I get home I am seriously considering writing a book about my experiences here in Dubai to help other would be expats, in all honesty you couldnt make this stuff up and if id known half of what I know now I would never have moved to Dubai.

Dear All. Lets get real. It is quite a task trying to manage office and justice at the home front with out domestice help which does have a huge price tag attached to it. The maternity leave alloted seems to meager. It would be more helpful if this leave is extended to atleast 60 to 90 days instead of just 45. Just a suggestion.All the mentioned above are either royalty or damn lucky women.

was this your first trip outside the UAE? With your type of demands, it's better u stay put here!

Thanks Tanweer, best laugh I've had in weeks. 

Get your facts right & then get a life....and live it !

Nolly, I discovered a while ago, that it is futile to try to make sense of most of the rules that used in this part of the world.Trying to make sense of things which defy logic, will drive you insane. It is better to pay this fine, or take the other option - don't own a car in UAE. Next option for all of us, is to live with the ridcolous system, or go home!

Falcon1: Your impression of London's East End is misinformed. It may have been a less salubrious place decades ago but now many parts are considered to be highly desirable. Anyway, the important difference between the UK property market and Dubai is that there is regulation and protection for investors. In M's case, he could sue the property managers with much less hassle and with lower costs than trying to do the same in Dubai. Accusing M of greed is misplaced; he bought the flat in good faith that the neighbourhood would be maintained to a reasonable standard. This side of the contract has clearly been neglected. Unfortunately with Dubai's laws, there is not much he can do. This is why a sensible investor should never invest in UAE until there is more protection, which I think is likely to take years.

Crescentrating.com will get you halal travel. Book online. No issues there.

OK , another example of Lady Orym more aware of news than reality on ground. Trees along roadside and those installed within Dubai by muncipality are watered by recycled/processed waste water. And all this time you were thinking that they are watered by mineral water ?

Oh dear another Hero in the making - puke puke. Sick of these I am a Muslim and I demand cause I am better than you cause my religion is the best - blah blah blah - puke. 

Is this guy for Real - right. By the way to those guys who use this excuse to drive like looney bins - shame on you. Muslims all over the world are fasting and most are working normal long hours and you dont hear a peep from them. Grow up and behave yourselves and stop using fasting as an excuse for your short comings and bad manners.

Yep falcon1 - the main problem is that this is a 3rd world country with 3rd world mentality and 3rd world system and will continue to be so for generations to come. People have foundout the hard way that all that Glitter turned out to be cheap fake metal. Agreed about East End but it is still 100% better as an investment than Dubai.

I must say I am not shocked at this sentence nor of some of the attitudes of people who condone it!. Note to all you people with children out there, make sure they dont get raped otherwise it will be your fault and they will end up in prison!! Rediculous.

Where have you seen these rowdy guys after Brunch? I've been to many and never experience this.

I beg to differ. Overvalued properties defy the principles of location, location, location.. I wouldn't buy anything in East-end, anymore than I would buy in Int'l City - at any price. Int'l city is unlikely to become a chic hangout, anytime soon, any more than East-end is going to see any Mansions built there with country clubs...It's the image instead! Just few years ago, everyone was falling over each other to buy a small two-three bedroom 'home' with a postage-stamp size 'yard' in sunny-California, for unseemingly six-figure $ price, next to railway track, in a not-so-great part of the city. Now, you can find one with an Ocean-view for about the same price! The ocean hasn't moved, but people have.

If only Banks have a better system, to help out debtors on sorting out their dues then there will be no absconbing! It happens on me as well, when paying on my credit sheild for my credit card but then found it out that it was not approved when i lose my job! And they are harrassing me, calling me five to six times a day asking for payment! After a year, I was thinking that they will never call me again now that i'm paying regularly, but to my surprise recently, a bank collector had called me telling me that i am overdue! They had changed my billing date without even informing me and i was told by the bank collector how naive I am not to check my bank statement, in a VERY RUDE MANNER! And at the same day i paid my credit card above the minimum, but to my surprise for two following consecutive days! they are still asking my payment and harrassing me again and we end up changing harsh words! Are they insane? Well, if they are really concern about their clients, at least they had called me a month ago to inform me that they are going to change my due date and ask me if it is suitable on me! Now i feel so sorry because I am getting my salary on 15th and my new due date is 10th! Good luck for me! I already came to the branch before twice to change my due date but now they are telling me that there is nothing they can do about it anymore! And i am forced to pay the overdue penalty charge! I know it is my responsibility to check on the bank statements, but is it their responsibilty as well to call and inform the client about changing due dates? And when asking them why what is wrong, they will just tell you it is the bank policy! Is it the bank policy of shitting people? If only I have known that my due date has changed, then I could had paid it on time. Should we be sorry of what did Mr. Warner had done and to the extent that we are condemning him? What he did is just a wake up call for the banks to upgrade their policies and come out for a better system once and for all.

I see Arabic people all over London and they all seem quite happy with the world, ask them how they cope

So another person making comments about 'bad 'ol Europe' and not having a clue what they're on about then

What a great way to generate money out of thin air! I cannot stand these banks implementing things and then making you do all the work to opt out when we all know actually trying to get something done with a bank here is a right pain! Often you don't get the bank letter until it's too late and faxing ... who still uses faxes? They contact me about internet banking, you can do this, do that, do the other ... fax us about it ... erm, heard of email in this internet age you're trumpeting?

East-End of London property prices will still fetch a large amount on the market, location, location, location. Fact is there is an established housing market there whereas here there was none, pure speculation driving prices up and them buyer getting mortgages on those inflated valuations ... matters made worse by inflexible banks and post dated cheques

I am not sure why a 'Dubai based financial advisor' is mentioned in the article, who cares what he says, we can draw our own conclusions. This is one guy, what about the other people that have taken loans and done a runner?

I like the choice of phrase "win back his passport" too, it really is like a competition, isn't it!

His 'friend' offered the bank 55K of that 58K and they said now and now it's ok to pay 41K? Nice! The bank didn't act very well in this but I think there is more to this guy than meets the eye

haha, must not run from police ... must obey at all times, any deviation from the rules is met with guilt

Yes, you really are the only person fasting

How is anyone to know what will happen anywhere? Was east-end of London, every designed to be a drug-infested, hooker haunt that it tunrned out to be decades later?

Let's face it.. Behind the facade of fancy gleaming towers, this is still a third-world country

Asadullah, please name and shame this bank. This sort of treatment of customers must be reported

People here are too impatient to wait hence why people ended up changing in public. To those people who experienced this, you should have been more patient and used the bathroom when it was available. If your not patient you pay the concequences and in this case everyone got to see ya bits!

Was this guy actually offered an affordable repayment scheme from the bank?.

Ive been offline for a few weeks due to moving home but I have just managed to get back online, I have read a few of the letters and this is by far the funniest you really are funny! Thanks for cheering me up after a hectic few weeks!.

@ Stacy... I was at terminal 3 today, there was no rush to begin with. It took me 9 mins to just go to a counter and back to the off loading parking zone. I know you have picked up a side that you don't want to leave, but please accept the fact, it is physically impossible for Mr. Scammy to go to the checkin counter, check in and back to his car in 5 mins. I know you believe him, that your opinion. But if you don't know something you have to take other opinion too. Btw. I DIDNT GET FINED FOR PARKING AT AN ACTUAL PARKING ZONE... And thats what Mr. Scammy should have done, rather that going BOOHOO on a public forum

M get a life who in their right mind would have bought in International city at any point over the last 5 years it was always going to end up a council estate! lets be truthful here just like a lot of other greedy people in this city you thought 500Dhs a sq ft would turn into 1,000 Dhs a sq ft over a couple of years and you missed the obvious that the boom was not sustainable, so now you want to blame anyone but yourself?

It is true; it is a holy month where people are trained to be patient. But even in normal situations it has been noticed people seem to drive on the fast lane where by they are crawling at a speed of 40. If there is fine for over speeding then there should be fine for driving in the fast lane where the drivers are not adhering to the speed limit. Coming to the point of "Whether a person should fast or not" is besides the point. The sanctity of the month and this being a muslim country needs to be respected where by I do notice people carrying their paratha's and cup of tea drinking and munching away to glory on the roads or in the car. Especially in Bur Dubai area.

Welcome to UAE.

How much more low can these banks go ?

I'm surprised that people are so negative to this letter. Lets face it so many people have bought property and made a huge mistake. Personally I feel really sorry for M as how were they to know how it would turn out. It did look good when it was first introduced. Hope you can find a way of selling your place M. Good luck.

Nice discovery Sherlock. Its a fact, people know of such rules when they give there learners exam but 'intelligent' decide to forget it. By the way, people won't over take from the right lane when some 'Morons' decide that the Over taking lane (also reffered as the fast lane) is a personal cruse control button. What ticks me is the some 'idiots' get on the over taking lane and click their cruse control at 5km/ hr below the speed limit.... And then they drive from Marina to end of SZ rd... It's not your personal track people, let others take over too

Tanweer, Perhaps you should write to the hotels instead of the newspaper. It may just be a case of ignorance and not intolerance. The only reason I was aware of the washing ritual associated with your religion is because I saw the film "Malcolm X". I'm sure that if enough Muslims express a need for these facilities they will be provided. I would estimate that 90 percent of Westerners are unaware that these facilities are even required.

Ok!! Here goes nothing. Mr. Deprived of the Fast lane, Hindus many other people fast many times in an year, there are other people who live in this country apart from You. Take another route, use an other time, leave a little early, or leave a little. As a Muslim I feel disgusted by your comment, it gives you no right to point out at signs in a certain car, it's wrong and points towards your intolerance to other religions. Please don't think you will find a fast lane just for you cause you are fasting. RETHINK.... As for the signs on the car, well I find it wrong to be on a car.... 

I thought it was amusing for a couple of you to suggest that he left because he was getting nowhere with the bank negotiations. Let me ask you this... Why is a guy who owes a quarter million dirhams to the bank, who ALREADY isn't able to make his payments on those debts, going on a holiday with his family in Spain?? I know that a few of you suggested that nationality has nothing to do with it, but I would be VERY interested to see which countries have the MOST citizens who skip out on their debts. Perhaps 7 days could look into writing a story about this?

If observed, most of the ladies mentioned above enjoy a VIP status and hence have abundant help at hand.It is definitely difficult for working ladies to manage a career and their family at the same time, especially in a foreign country, where extra help is not reliable or is very expensive. It would be nice and a relief if the local govt. makes it mandaory for mothers take care of their children(1 or more)personally and start earning only after the last child in the family completes atleast 7 yrs. A not so reasonable age, but definitely a slightly mature age.This would be a big help to the child also.

This is the most idiotic letter i have come across from a so called ' Faster' . And what was the third line about ? Quote 'I get mad to see cars around me full of people who are not fasting' . I dont know much about fasting but isn't it suppose to be about ' Patience & Tolerance' sorry if my information is wrong or may be the Claim is wrong.

The absconding is natural action when you find yourself trapped in a system that favor one part on the account of the other cheques bouncing law prove to be disaster which will kill the UAE economy and destroy all what has been built , it has to be canceled and replaced by travel ban , banks should have different tools and methods to collect debt , no one will question their right to harass defaulters, make their life miserable and create unbearable tensions in order to collect their money , but that should not include slavery or jail or illegal practices , and the authorities should not be involve in that practice. Loans and credit cards has been obtained through contracts and both parties should respect it and work throw it , I do not believe that anyone can jail a bank or a banker if he default on delivering promised services or even if they defraud the clients and impose unrealistic and unarguable fines and fees. So why that right are given to banks ? I’m sorry to say it , but as long the jail sentence remain. undoubtedly , absconding and fleeing the country remain the first and the WISEST DECISION which should be taken by any one in debt.

Ok, Ok! Give it a rest guys; it's the weekend for goodness sake! Let's have a go at knocking the "Yanks" or even the "Ozzies" for a change, after all, many people here don't recognise accents and so assume that if you speak English and are white you are a Brit!

My dear Tanweer. First thing first. You should ask Emirates Airline (muslim airliner) to fix a bidet especially for you first before you book your air tickets & room reservations. What a joker!

I am sorry but for all of you those so opinionated about him absconding, HE HAD NO CHOICE! 

I am sorry you have nowhere to take your dogs for fun.. but unfortunately, there are just too many people who will not clean up after their dogs and it will be too hard to catch and fine those idiots. I know for a fact beaches and parks will end up with dog poop all over and so does the government.

The fact remains the laws in this country are inconsistent at best. Banks, utility companies, property developers, mobile phone companies (the list goes on and on) can do whatever they want and rarely face any consequences.  

Awful. Name and shame, please!

Mr Tanweer.Please take a good hard look at what you have written and the responses it has generated. No doubt we have all had dissapointments with respect to hotel standards all round the world, yourself included but I don't think by the sarcastic tone of your letter that this is your real issue.

Dear Tanweer, I am honestly sorry you had a bad experience on your trip to Europe. I am not being sarcastic here, I honestly am; not because you had a poor time there, but because your blanket statements and gross over-generalizations may actually scare some Muslims whoa re not familiar with that region of the world. If your trip was miserable was because you did not take the time to do a little research on the net. There are plenty of hotels trhough out the countries you mentioned that offer bidets in their rooms. Furthermore, there are plenty of restaurants who carry Halal dishes. Do you seriously believe that with the amount of travelers coming from the Gulf region there wasn't someone smart enough to set up a business out of these commodities? Just because you didn't look for it, it does not mean they are not there. Lastly, please do not politicize the issue... I have never travel to KSA or Iran, simply because I know that those countries do not offer what I believe necessary for me to have a good time. Unlike in Europe where I can buy Halal meet if I really want to... in some gulf countries I can't buy pork or wine to have dinner... So please, if you are not willing to make a little research before you travel abroad, I strongly suggest you to limit your options for holiday travel to the Muslim world.

hear ye hear ye!! they dont and wont care about u, they just want their money.... is this something to be PROUD OF ..... DUBAI?!

Good luck Dr. BOB.... and should i say.... welcome to the new UAE!

In a GREEDY Place like Dubai, they dont care about anything. When they smell BLOOD they'd go for the KILL..... SHAME ON ALL THE BANKS HERE! yuuuuuuuuuuuck!

Im sorry guys but within my 4-yrs of stay here in Dubai, seeing the likes of Mr. Warner, having to live elsewhere, dreaming of a life behind bars, waking up from Bank Calls threatening them, abusing them and invading their HUMAN RIGHTS, going through the day nit picking on fears that a police officer would just show up, getting harrassed again in mid-day by a collector calling your office/ showing up in your office and bringing in the most incomprehensible scandal, i think what Mr. Warner did is CORRECT! All you guys who condems this guy (including 7days for calling him SHAMELESS, sorry...) just think about this, when things stumble down into pieces, all the talks/ negotiations been made, and yet you are bullied by the bank themselves, what would you have done?! Let's stop being selfish and hypocrite about this. A lot of people, if given the chance would actually do the same thing, a lot that i've know have tried their best to come up with a solution, but these banks only wants their money in COLD CASH... as COLD as their HEART (or lack thereof...). As with the INTER-POL, i see nothing but DUBAI STUPIFYING/ MOCKING itself in the International Community (an ALTER-EGO)! Cant Dubai face the fact that the EXODUS of Expats is nothing but due to the fact that they LACK on SOMETHING?! Having someone to be listed in the INTERPOL with DEBT is nothing but a communal mediocrity! 

A suggestion? Change the "fast" lane into a "fasting" lane. Seriously, why the rush to get home at 3pm when Iftar is at 7pm?

Lady Oryx: My point, seeing as you are on it again, is that we should open this up and get some facts on who is leaving FROM WHERE without paying and then find out why and then try and get the government here to look into ways of asking the banks to mediate in such a way that the only option is not passport confiscation or jail! British or other wise. There are people dim enough to look at this article and think its just British that do this. Morality covers all, so lets see this reported in such a away, OK!

I have never in my life heard such a load of sanctimonious claptrap! What was the man supposed to do? How was he supposed to pay off his debts? If the police had his passport how could he get a job with no visa? He was left in an impossible situation - no job, no money and thanks to the bank's behaviour no means of earning any money to pay off the debt. As long as the banks are allowed to behave like this people will abscond. At least in his home country he has a chance of earning some money and how do you lot all know he won't pay it back? And all of you who say he should be in prison - what good is that going to do anyone? How can he pay anything off from prison? You lot all seem to think that all people who are financial difficulties are there deliberately and that somehow they are refusing to pay back, rather than unable to pay back.

Not all dogs are comfortable in the heat but some are well adapted to it. The saluki breed is one, for example. This is endemic to the Middle East region has been kept by bedouins for centuries.

The bottom line is that hotels will cater to the needs of their guests. The number of Muslim guests in European hotels is a tiny minority, which is why special consolations are unlikely to be made. Hotels that do have a significant proportion of Muslim guests already do already provide the services you describe above. Many 5 star hotels in London have Arabic-speaking staff, all the facilities you mention, and can prepare your favourite food.

The law here states that you must keep right unless overtaking but it's not properly enforced. The far left lane is the overtaking lane but as long as it is known as "the fast lane" people will keep using it for their personal grand prix track even though this is arrogant, stupid and dangerous.

This is terrible, the banks really need to be regulated in this country. There needs to be a body where you can go to mediate when people cannot find resolution with the banks. Check you policies people!!!!

Leafy Suburb? I have seen greeer and more attractive streets in the terraced labourers housing of Salford.

Where in this story does it say he is not prepared to pay off his debts? He's in Spain. So what? This whole story is based on supposition.NBD are still working with him and so for your 'financial advisor' to accuse him of absconding is doing nothing to help this case or any future case.

Just learn defensive driving. As well as driving yourself you have to drive for everyone else on the road too....

Dear M, Sorry to hear that the neighbourhood has gone down the tube, but look on the bright side - at least you HAVE a property. I am paying nearly AED 24,000 a month for the next 5 years for my mortgage on a property that has never been built, from a developer who is seemingly 'above' the law.

Excuse me - dont blast the guy but the system that has left people with no options but Go To Jail Card. As someone who has had to bailout a few individuals - take it from me it is a mess out there once they arrest you and take your passport - you cant talk and even if you do no one will listen. I have said it before and will say it again and this is from experience = If I loose my job then it will be the next flight out of here. 

A very good point Henry and so true. But also as militiaman mentions it is also cultural and believe me the fear of dogs is real among them to a point if a dog comes near them they would kill it. And finally it is religious and we have discussed this before. The dogs nose is considered haram as it sniffs everything hence it is considered dirty. There is also this hadith that angels do not visit houses with dogs in it. So basically since Islamic Countries run on Sharia Laws (religious) and since religion does say that particular animal is haram in several ways - good luck.

Tanweer, what special washing facilities are you looking for exactly ? Are you planning to slaughter a few goats in there or something ? May I suggest that you confine your travels to civilized countries where you will feel more at home. I have heard that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is particuarly nice at this time of year !

The over riding road rule in this case is to keep right unless overtaking. If everybody did this then there would never be a need to undertake. The problem is all of the people who sit in the left hand lanes whilst the right hand lanes are completely empty. It seems as though they feel less important if they are not sitting to the far left!

I wouldn't visit Saudi Arabia and expect a pub on every corner and a public beach where I wear my bikini...

I agree Chocolate Boy you need only read about the father who had the heart attack and hear his story (under National News) as to how the banks are not regulated and can make changes to suit them not their clients. Its hectic!

What the h**l! i got a fine! and in fact im just sitting in the office since morning! overspeeding 130kph! i didn't even drive more than 100kph! worst is, in SZR 10:30am...MY GOD! I'm in Jebel Ali!!!

it is just a simple letter of anger and insecurities! trying to stereotype oneselves.

Again, Dr Spock, this is not about nationality (just like your obsession with Mr Qurashi). It doesn't matter where someone is from, the issue is the morality of absconding on a debt, not whether the person in debt is British or not.

simple! don't fast if you can't take it!

@Akasha: I still have to learn about people who consider washing unhygenic. And the "When in Rome...." thingy is rubbish. This is about tourism and hospitality. The European tourism industry wants particularly Gulf arabs to travel to these destinations, there is big money on the horizon. Hence they need to cater to the needs of this clientele. Tanweer has a point, just the way he is getting it across is a bit unproductive

If I am here and I kick up and ask for my moneys worth to the great wonderment of the local people - they lock me up. What a load of rubbish.

Lady Oryx, well said - it's about time for people to wake up and change the wasteful life style. Water consumption, waste, petrol, pollution - nobody here really seems to care, because at the end of their expat contracts they will all go home to their leafy green countries and don't give a damn about the environmental ruins they leave behind.

At least you have a property! many of us are still paying for NO property. Read the contract next time.

stupid letter and obvious fake

Im stuck here as many others are with lifeless property portfolios owing to the fact that the developer is severely wanting and not building to spec or completion date. The bank in my case was the main financier, I have tried to reason with them ref the huge interest payments that I was only to pay over a year (now 3) however they just act like bullies. They were supposed to have done their homework when offering me my mortgage on a property that turned sour. I did my homework as best I could however I did not know this developer was suffering financially, however the bank would have done yet they still processed my loan AND they would have been aware of severe delays ahead. This guy left because he knew full well there is NO talking to these people, this is a feudal system that just shouts JAIL JAIL JAIL. It goes no way to work to consolidate. I do get angry when these people leave but at least he TRIED! to tall to the bank!. Shall we now talk about the thousands of others who were NOT from the UK who have left with unpaid debt!????? shall we make examples of them also! wind your necks in!

Most people drive like they got their licence free in a packet of Cheetos! If those idiots sitting cruising along in the second lane to the very left would only move over, then there would be no issues. But as it stands they FORCE people to undertake.

Tanweer, you're extremely selfish you know! You're not visiting muslim countries it's as simple as that! When in Rome and all that, if you don't like it find somewhere else that caters to your needs. Also has it occurred to you that actually many people consider the 'washing' action extremely unhygienic?

RTA/Police please separate the roads into 2 ie. 1 for non-fasting drivers & 1 for the fasters' drivers like this guy. Is this good enough Mr. Faster? LoL!

Undertaking is illegal & hogging the faster lanes also illegal.

I guess he will not have to pay taxes for this money as a british citizen.

Seriously???? What a joke!

well not all hotels are serving pork and liquor here and even a filipino restaurants here are not serving pork! considering that it is haram and an islamic country. therefore consider it as well that you are visitng in a christian country even if it a secular one!

OK, here's the thing - the UAE has been declared by the UN to be a water-imperilled nation. Thus excessive use of water for plants is hugely wasteful. The choices are pretty simple - either use recycled water or plant trees and shrubs that are better suited to the conditions here. Trying to keep grass green and non-native trees healthy in a land where neither belong is wasteful and stupid. If you are using your household water to hose these plants, then shame on you.

I thought theft was considered shameful in Islam...

I feel as the same as many do on this page and I do not want my response to sound like I am going to defend this man. However, people absconding from Dubai seems to be fast becoming a part of daily life here and as yet the authorities seems to be doing nothing about it. In the civilised world how can we expect people to have to live rough, on the streets merely because they have lost their job? Why cant the banks work out a proper method of debt collection for those in trouble without having to threaten people with prison? Ultimately this is a severe failing of the regulatory authorities to provide a solution to help those which find themselves in financial trouble. It is a shared responsibility between both parties to work out a sensible solution taking each persons individual circumstances into account. If someone is terminated from their job with no explanation (which does happen in this country) then surely there should be some kind of protection. Perhaps these scenarios would be avoided if actual employment laws were introduced to stop employers terminating their staff whenever they choose. In conclusion none of us know the full circumstances with regards this scenario so before wishing jail time upon this individual ask yourself. Tomorrow if your job was terminated with no explanation, your lost your property, your passport was seized and you were threatened with going to jail until the debt was paid what would you do?

This will only be sorted out once drivers here learn that the far left lane is not the "fast lane" but it is the overtaking lane. It is only meant to be used for overtaking. It is not anybody's personal grand prix track. The law here says you are meant to keep right unless overtaking but, like so many traffic laws here, it is not properly policed.

Pretty much any European hotel I have stayed in has washbasins in the bathrooms - I've seen Muslims using them for ablutions so what is the problem there? And surely a bathtub and shower is as effective as a bidet for additional washing of the body? These are in any decent European hotel room. And in many places, halal slaughter is not considered humane but there are usually halal restaurants in any place with a Muslim population. Just as I do research before I travel to find out if there are facilities that cater to what I am looking for in a holiday, it is just as easy for Muslims to do the same, what with this newfangled internet and telephone technology available to us all.

Name and shame both the bank and the person who's signed it.

Why limit drink when we can simply ban it all together. Ban them all ....

Bubbles, on the issue of a flight being diverted, I wonder when Dubai is going to be hauled up for arresting people in international transit lounges over which it has legal jurisdiction.

How else would you interpret a "flexible" interest rate??? By definition, it is going to change...

I thought fasting was meant to be a test of faith, not an excuse for bad driving and general selfishness.

@ Dr. Spock: Di d you just say that the UK and the Brits are the most tolerant society in the world???? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!! This has to be the joke of the week, no, of the year! Out of context, but absolutely hillarious!

The bank has been a bit ham-fisted but at the end of the day, he borrowed money and failed to pay it back. It doesn't matter which way you cut it, he has absconded on a loan and made it harder for everyone here who is trying to go about paying of debts the right way.

Hahaha - looks like everone has just been waiting for Erol to hit the keyboard! But seriously, tightening the alcohol tap is not the solution - just control the drink driving and the public indecency, should be all good then.

sounds like old Errol D'Souza on a rant, is it you Errol ?.

that is what im thinking! lol

Exactly, we live in the desert - and there is almost endless space to let your dogs play and run. As for fining people who don't clean up after their dogs - well meant, but you can't catch them all. What about all the dog poo on the beach that the kids will mistake for play dough? Might be an idea to campaing for a beach strip assigned to dog lovers, doesn't need to be in the heart of Jumeirah, there is enough beach outside the city.

Indicators on most cars don't have inticators

Ah Tanweer, if only you could take all that anger out of your comment. Agreed, the vast majority of hotels in Europe do not provice specific services for muslim guests. But there are hotels and restaurants which do so, and you can find out before you book. As far as comparison goes, please don't compare an an entire continent to out lovely UAE. As already mentioned in another comment here, try your luck in KSA or Iran, for example. Pork or alcohol is not even permitted for personal consumption, let alone being served anywhere. Starving without halal meat? You could demonstrate a tiny bit of adaptability and turn to the many vegetarian options - can't go wrong there. Finally, if you really want change, stop ranting, address the hotel and tourism orgnaisations of the respective countries and make your comments and suggestions. I am sure, there will be people who do realise the business opportunities... I know what I am talking about, as I am a German hotelier...

I honestly hope that this guy ends up in Jail where he belongs.

To the powers that be - track down this absconder and make an example of him.

Disgusting! I feel sorry for all the people who are in genuine financial trouble and try hard to solve it in the right way - they will have to pay the bill for the likes of this reckless ...! But I de believe in Karma - he will meet his fate - sooner or later.

So glad you got "straight to the point". All the non-fasters who blatantly display their faith on/in their cars just love to idle away time in traffic because what else is there to get home and do besides eat and sleep eh?

This a cultural thing, in this part of the world, dogs havent really been kept as pets and a number of people here, particulalry from the sub-continent arent used to being around dogs and are understandably nervous around them. Also like mr. hughes has commented already, why do people want dogs here ? this isnt an environment for dogs, a lot of the time the pavement is too hot for them and very few people here have grass for the dog to run around on and if they do its the size of the postage stamp ! I understnad that peopel like their dogs and feel that "they are part of the family" but its not really fair on the poor animals keeping them in a sauna is it ?

ha ha ha ha what do you expect people...I told you on the other article that he should've stayed in UAE and in Prison ....and now ciao Dubai and the half million debt...but Interpol will arrest him and send him back here very soon...

Driver Dan totally agree with you about indicating but overtaking on the right, if only people realised and moved away from the fast lanes into the slower lanes when driving on the freeway there will not be anybody overtaking on the right. Until people dont realise that, other drivers are helpless because there is no other way out but to overtake from the right in so many cases.

Will the victims receive any counselling after coming face to face with the alleged ring-leader?

these are the choices people make...where to go on holiday and where to stay. There are muslims the world over and I am sure that your Halaal needs can be accomodated. Try googling the info that you require. In this day and age information is readily availible at your finger-tips....also visit halaaltrip.com

If people have no idea of the most basic rules of the road, then the the question has to be asked: how did they obtain a driving licence?

Someone has a rather large chip on his shoulder.

you are one angry person.....

We live in the desert.....many breeds of dog do not belong here !! Why do people(animal lovers ??) subject their pets to this type of enviroment..?? Its not difficult to understand

Tanweer, you have to pick up the right places. A lot of hotels, airlines, restaurants cater for your needs. It is also your duty to find the place that suits you most. Although the countries are secular, you cannot deny the christian heritage of the west.

Mr anonymous wants the entire city to himself, so a humble request to all citizens to make way for this guy

And the point of this letter is....????

Is this letter for real? If so, no sympathy from me, I'm afraid.

Please don't politicise this. The world is anyway being divided enough with religious beliefs. What's the big deal if the toilet is not having washing facilities, carry your own bottle dammn it!! There are enough tin food available and you can always carry a compass for directions. What's the big deal if the hotels in the west are not compatable to your needs, take this in a positive way and why not open a new business venture into a Hotel which caters to your specific need or tailored made for everyon's religion? Please for god's sake don't mess people's mind.

Asadullah, why not scan the letter of the bank and post it?? If this story is true, that is a new low.

wonder if passengers in the back get fed too? Might have a go tonight for my free dinner

Mr Tanweer. I am sorry that your European trip was disappointing. However I must say that you must have stayed in some dodgy hotels. Furthermore you have generalized and grossly exaggerated the situation by saying "all hotels". Halal food is readily available throughout Europe. Maybe you should have checked with the hotel at the time of booking. Bibles are placed free of charge in hotel rooms by the Gideon Society, not the hotel management. Many modern mobile phones have an on-board compass so that should help determine the direction of the Qibla. Yes, non-muslims are very fortunate to live in the tolerant society that is the UAE. However, as a non-muslim, try to get a copy of the bible or a bacon sandwich in Saudi Arabia. Europe is not that intolerant after all is it? Jimbo

I really hope he decides to pay back his debts now he has left the UAE. Whether it takes him a year or 10 years its still the right thing to do. If he doesnt, it will hang over his head for the rest of his life. He will never be able to travel to the Middle East or Far East or Asia, if by any chance the plane diverted and landed in Dubai, he would be in big big trouble. Its just not worth the risk. Pay your debts and sleep easy at night.

This is a very good Business opportunity. Why not open a Hotel in the west with all the specific points you mentioned above. If i were you, than i would carry a Compass & a bottle of water to the Toilet. Halal food is available in Tin cans as well. Please don't politicise this issue, the world is already getting dangerous with division on religion.Its not a big deal!!

Dear Mr Brown these people dont bother anything but your eye sight now do they? is it really necessary for you to rain on someone else's friday parade?

Dear M, Welcome to the real world! Your mortgage bond is taken over how many years? Did you expect to pay the same interest rate for that period of time? The apartment will always be a positive on your balance sheet.

i'm sorry but i dont see you suggest anything useful. would you like all of us that arent fasting to stay off the roads just so you can get home on time? if you are iiritable because you cannot eat or drink anything then pls dont take it out irrationally on those that can!

if you dont like it then you can leave. :)

Scum's = people who do such things.

Oh Errol, your simplistic views make me smile every day :) xx

Is this story linked to the phantom fines imposed by the RTA? Were all those fake fines transferred by this person to hide what he was doing?

Gullible - that's what these people are who "helped" this criminal!

Yes they caught him in the nip of time, I chest hope that this kind of crime does not become the norm. It just underwires the need to keep this kind of policing going in order to keep a well rounded society from suffering anymore of these downturns.

It's not really a lighter I supposed. I was once locked up here and I've seen inmates using used AAA batteries and small piece of wire (or even coins as conductor) as their lighters... In fairness to Dubai Police, it's not their fault. However, crowded police station are mainly because of petty crimes particularly dud cheques cases could be a significant part of the issue here. Less inmates could mean less troubles!

Dear Mia xoxo , Persons like you are the ones that gives dubai a bad reputation with that silly talk of yours.

Errol you can say all you want about it but they wont change it at all. They make too much money from it and at the end of the day that is what matters more than anything here in dubai ... money. o you just are going to have to get over it or move to Saudi - what an idea!

A cigarette lighter allowed in a cell! Really? Mental.

@ Dr Spock, my friend is a she not a he, she is a law-abiding, proud British citizen who votes in UK elections. If you want to move to Bisnia and become a Bosnian citizen, you can obtain that (I checked...). As for Indians with British passports, what is the problem with people wanting to visit their country of origin? Finally, I really don't care how many passports Qurashi has - he has broken the law and is paying the penalty. Granted, it is a harsh sentence but this has nothing to do with his nationality.

Well Said Mansoori.

PMM: I actually enjoy making you look daft, let's call it sport shall we. I was just going to leave it, but your puerile and inane parrot fashion responses are just too easy a target. Keep them coming please!

DEFINITELY A FINE QUOTA SYSTEM operating in the designated 'PASSENGER DROP OFF' area at T3 DEPARTURES. I dropped my daughter off at T3 at 0009a.m.Friday morning and stopped opposite a sign which says 'PASSENGER DROPOFF' (in blue lettering written in ENGLISH but not I dont think its in ARABIC). It took me at the most 10-15 to get out of my truck, remove her wheeled suitcase and put on kerb while daughter took her cabin bag from the back seat. Hugged her goodbye and left. Imagine my surprise (and anger) to receive a text on my mobile 4 days later to tell me that a Traffic ticket has been issued. When I went online I discovered that the 10-15seconds dropoff had cost me AED200.00. Any point of visiting the nearest Traffic Police for verificationn as can be done in 'home country'???NAHHHHHH!! As guests in this city, cant buck the 'moneymaking machine'. One of the drawback of this city. VTbint

Is that all you got? such a broken record! I don't see where in my comments i sound upset but I do understand why you would say that way after all it proved you are off limited/stereotypical thinking. Btw, for someone who bores you u seem quite prompt to write back.

Oryx, there are Perfect Safety Laws here in fact if you'd care to research written based upon the British system. The problem is the competency of the workers is so low that they often find them selves wound up half way down a crane. The difference between here and the UK is that here the enforcement bodies are mob handed with people who would rather sit back with a sheesha than visit workplaces to ensure laws are implemented. By the way accidents still happen in the UK you know and the employee has responsibilities just as much as the employer!

Strange that all passwords were their mobile numbers... is this a policy of the Police here? I can see it now during the Police Academy Training, 'now lads all write down your mobeel numbers and we will tatoo them on the back of your hand later so you never forget your password to highly confidential files'. Now thats maximum security! I am proud to say I managed to complete last year without a single traffic fine for any thing, when I went for renewal the guy had to pick his jaw up of the desk! Mabruk mabruk he rejoiced!

lol superb advert for the Police control of inmates! When I was locked up in the UK for a pub brawl they even removed my shoes so I couldnt hang myself I guess, but surely a cigarette lighter would not be permitted by law in the cell! C'mon!

This discussion has deteriorated from Dr Spocks very accurate statement on 11th Aug, I therefore want to chip in so to speak. I find it very difficult to comprehend why cheques of such value would not have been stopped by the Payee. If the deal was off and that was me being a well educated Brit I would have legged it down to his bank and made certain of the cancellation... why did he not do that??? The man is a wheeler dealer and trusted in the banking system here in UAE which we all know is diabolical with customer service! Want something done do it yourself and put pressure on the institutions! Secondly, just to add to the British Passport fury, I visited India from the UK a few years back, had to go to Manchester to get the Visa sorted with company invite to India etc, much to my suprise the Visa place was full of Indians wanting to visit their home country... all holding British Passports, very ironic I thought! They needed visas to nip back home after they sold they souls for a Brit P'Port! lol Priceless!

Well done UAE!! bravo bravo! oooohh... that smell... is so so familiar! that rotten dead rat smell... oh yeeaaaah, its crossing boundaries already.... 7day and myfidetheik join in! you're the future of UAE!!! eeeew "IT" STINKS!

I simply cannot believe what I read here sometimes. How can anybody in their right mind justify the 28 y/o driver for his actions. You can make comments regarding the parenting, and speculate on the content of the text sent back and fort... HOWEVER, you cannot ignore the fact that she is a CHILD, why is it that we do not allow children to drink, or go into night clubs, or vote (where applicable), why do you think parents have to sign consent forms for school trips? Because as a society, we believe that a child cannot assume responsibility for their actions!!! This poor girl should be home getting help for the ordeal that she just went through, and the driver should consider himself lucky that he was caught doing this in a male-chauvinist country... for he is a pedophile!

Day 7 we all know where the brothels are, we all know who is making money out of it! stop being so hypocritical

Day 7 we all know where the brothels are, we all know who is making money out of it! stop being so hypocritical

GREAT WORK UAE!!!!!!!!!! May ALLAH help people of Pakistan!!!

I have a fine,can someone help!!!!!

It sure is time for Dubai to tighten the alcohol tap a little.

This is a clear case of Inferiority Complex.

One wonders if he tansferred the fines onto innocent drivers. Maybe it's time for Dubai Police to investigate the many "phantom fines" being issued rather than accuse us of lying.

This confirms what a lot of us suspected all along, that traffic fines are deleted if you have a friend "on the inside". Glad to hear that this guy has been caught. How many more corrupt officials are lurking in the woodwork, I wonder?

PMM: If my comments are limited and predictable yours are arrogant and stereotypical, however rather dull and rural in their approach. As for spell check!! - I think you may need to run one over your own ill thought out ramblings, last time I looked ENGLISH does not have .....*rispote/caliber within the context that you are so sadly trying to use them, or just not at all. Many folks here are Indian and enjoy Balti & Rice! Why you should get so upset by an innocent presumption such as this I really do not know!..Please, come back with something of merit next time rather than the wounded bleating of a one trick pony...you bore me!

thanks Lady Oryx. I am trying to find out if they have it as I assume they do. I will be calling the MOL in the morning. I can not believe the undo stress that a person or company can put on someone. They took his passport 2 years ago because of a business deal that went array and called the police in to make him hand over a cheque as security for a ridiculous amount of money that he did not have. The deal was ligitmate and he may have made a mistake in signing off on it but COME ON....hold you prisoner and has never been called for a court date! Anyway thanks again and ANYONE out there who can give me some advice is appreciated. I can give personal email should you be able to help!

'he failed to appear in court'. Typical.

@Annmaree, if his former employer has confiscated his passport, that is against the law and the Ministry of Labour needs to be informed ASAP. That might be a start towards getting a new job so that the debt can be paid. Kudos for being serious about paying off the debt rather than doing a runner. Good luck.

What????? corruption!!!! never thought that it would spread to Dubai. But then again the UAE is not far from Africa.

Saw an interview with this guy. I wonder where all the crying hearts are that were crying foul a few weeks back

Can I find out who gave him this help. I have my fiance in the same situation but he wants to stay, work and PAY! But they won't let him work. Anyone out there now that can help.....we are without money and jobs and now homeless too. It's not a joke and we don't want to run we just want our lives back! Please anyone that can advise from here as an old company has his passport!

Remember when they all left and left their debts en masse! WE/US the ones that are honest and want to stay have dome so with my bank upping the interest rates shortly after the dust settled...typical

Well, Dr. spock for me to provide some sort of articulate and challenging rispote as you put it I would then need to have someone of that caliber. Unfortunately with your limited and predictable comments that don't go beyond ignorance there is only so much one can say. btw, thanks for your ill informed (as with other things) insinuation on my nationality but I did find out what balti and rice is and for someone with such hate towards immigrants you sure know your Asian cuisine well! So why don't you go stuff your face with some curry as you do your spell check...

He could have out-run the cop if he was more of a strapping lad... Still, good to see this sort of crime is being nipped in the bud by breast practice policing...

Errol drives me to drink...

Ahhh, the good old days. When you wanted to start a relationship with a woman you had to take her out to dinner, sweet talk her, take her out to lunch, be charming - now all it takes is to tell her "hey, you have traffic fines? no problem, - come over to my house tonight and bring your ticket"

Will he apologise to bank customers when they find their fees rise as a result of people who run away from loans?

Anyone that leaves a loan here unpaid leaves a debt to all of us! I have a loan which the bank is taking huge amounts of interest for on a property that may never be built! Thats the flip side here when honest people want to do the right thing but just get shafted! He got of lightly.

Unless they treat corruption seriously it will continue to be a problem. Interesting to see what sentences are passed - one year suspended sentence and a transfer to the Min of Ag & Fish ?

Did you also notice that in his earlier story he totally forgot to mention the personal loan. The guy is obviously a scammer.

DAY 7 - You need to understand the difference between people working hard (building Dubai)and playing hard and ....scum!

PMM: You would have to provide some form of articulate and challenging riposte in order to rattle my nerves, but keep trying you never know in between your Balti and rice you might think of something nice, or not...innit.

whew! luckiest person ever! almost a quarter a million debt is done with just a 41T, a emirati negotiator and an expat benefactor..i wonder how to get rid of my 20T debt..any suggestions?

Please forward his number tx!...:)

Lady Oryx: Good for your friend ref his business! I’m glad the UK gave him that chance! Sorry how can he be a true Brit! he is from Bosnia! THINK ABOUT IT! If I went to Bosnia and opened a business would I be a TRUE BOSNIAN! Duh! Why is it everyone who has been given a passport should be deemed as British when asked they would tell you they are NOT! as they still count their mother country as their origin! Please stop trying to tell me a Brit how things should be, its rather irksome! ARE YOU BRITISH?...We have given refuge to many from war torn regions and many of them would return home if both economic and political factors were stable enough, again in the meantime the UK is looked upon as a surrogate nation that affords tolerance, economic opportunities and safety yet all I seem to hear from many given these opportunities are complaints and moans!.Please find a tree and go hug it.

Maybe he'll get a Dh,1,000 fine and then celebrate by driving on two wheels on Sheikh Zayed Rd...

the police have obviously been monitoring him since his last offence and set up a booby trap to catch him again

@ Dr Spock, you say "a true Brit is just like a true local, blood lines traced back to 100's of years." So you're saying that no law-abiding immigrant who is working or running a business and generally making a positive contribution to Britain can be "a true Brit". I'd love to see you tell that to my friend who came to the UK as a refugee from the genocide in Bosnia, is now a British citizen and has a successful career in media and policy-making. 

My first thought too Crunch - ha ha ha. Good one. Corrupt employee - mmmmm????? Shame they didnt catch the guys who were issuing the ghost fines. LOL

Anyone noticed that despite having financial problems the guy still managed to have a holiday too. Great - I wish we could all do same and get away with it.

I am with you on this one Crunch. But I also think UAE has to come up with a plan for such people in the long run or the banks are gonna put all ex-pats as persona non grata in future.

Can somebody please tell him that a loan is not free money.

Mr.Qureishi is a typical of his kind - came out with fanfare of flash bulbs when all was going well and refuses to let the flash bulb goes off even though they are highlighting his own stupidity. His nationality is irrelevant but his dubious ways of doing business are the main concerns for the authority and rightly so. And Mr.Spock is right - Mr.Qureishi is using nationalities as an excuse for pardon or for pity from law and is whatever he wants to be when it suits him. A pathetic individual who stooped low enough to use his own child to fight for him instead of being man enough and do his own dirty work.

How pathetic are we getting here?? this guy obviously ran up a huge debt and was expecting to get away without paying. meanwhile, he was able to manipulate the media and naive individuals believe him. It's people like him that are making it harder for the rest of us here.

Anyone has this guy's number?? ;)

Mr D'Souza, if Muslims come to the UK a predominantly Christian country shall they fear not having a Mosque to pray! Oh thats right their are hundreds of them! Tolerance within bounds! Stop reminding people of the obvious and if you cannot afford more than one beer on a Friday then perhaps you need to get a better paying job rather than venting your spleen here. Relax for goodness sake!

By the way you say immigrants have made a great contribution, well I agree during the 50's 60's post war when many jobs needed filling owing to losing so many of our brave people the Indian community especially have made a great contribution, hard working and mostly law abiding people. However during Labours tenure many, especially from Pakistan have come over and have started preaching hate (7/11) was a direct consequence of coercing young Pakistani men into blowing themselves up and many other innocents. Many of these 'communities' are closed and a large number do not speak English nor do they want to. If you come into the UK then under new legislation you will have to score a certain amount of points before you are allowed to stay and now thank god it is being capped for skilled only, not those that just come over looking for a free house! and having the cheek to shout if they don't get it. A true Brit? well a true Brit is just like a true local, blood lines traced back to 100's of years. Anyone is welcome to the UK if they integrate and abide by the law and if they are now able to support themselves and add value. LOOK around you here, if you are in Dubai! DO YOU SEE ANY DOLE OFFICES FOR EXPATS!!!......NOPE!..

how ridiculous!!!nowhere in the world would this despicable sentence be made and that is not a compliment!! evn if the child danced nude in front ofthe bloody bus driver she is still a CHILD and cannot be tried as an adult!! the sexually deprived bus driver however shoud get more than a year in Jail!! disgraceful behaviour UAE!!

@7day: again!!! a very unreasonable comment, and a very wrong example given. You know you will loose this argument hands-down. Alcohol when served to an underage is not the responsibility of the teen but the person serving it. THINK AGAIN BEFORE COMMENTING. @Lady Oryx: no one in their right mind would be OK with this decision but accept 7day. ( I did say right mind, didn't I?) :) @R.June: yes you are correct, he sure would have known. But at the same time you must agree to this too, that where he comes from, girls get married at that age. I know two wrongs don't make a right but that's how it is. It is a peculiar sensation of double consciousness, this sense of always looking at one's self through the eyes of others and that's what we had studied and learnt to think, NOT HIM. Also one more thing. I understand that there will be a difference of opinion to this too, but my question is, "if the girl is 14 and the guy would have been 16 and they would have been caught doing the same, what should have been the verdict?  please keep in mind that this country doesn't allow sex before marriage. Respect!!!!! Ps. Isn't that what the Dubai mall lady say :p

Well said Lady Oryx. I don't understand one thing though. Why does this case take 8 months to enter a hearing process and I don't don't know how would it take see the punishment

jail them all for 5 years, oh sorry lesser that that. Rapist get that term

What's so good about this news, I am rather disappointed by this. I am a customer of Emirates NBD too. He has not paid a frying amount and has left country and I am sure he will never return to Dubai ever again. My bank has had a loss of that amount which means, I in turn will be charged somehow. It's saddening People pay your debts or stop borrowing

first of all, stories like this doesn't paint an ugly picture but rather it shows a good job done by the Dubai police. Salutes to Dubai Police and I hope and wish they can keep on doing this. People! The Police in Dubai needs encouragement, I really don't understand why this action is not applauded. If you see or feel a brothel (kind of actively) running in your building, then complain about it rather that writing on 'a comments section' and beating your chest with pride. @7day: your comment about expats using this service is not just disturbing but also shows how one sided your thoughts are. We all contribute to this disgusting industry, Citizens and expats too. Just answer one question, who sponsored and passed a 16 and a half year old girl in to this country?

I dont actually see how banning alchol helps anyone... it will only drive it underground and what is the use of that. I find it crazy that there are gangs in Dubai killing each other over alcohol. Alcohol is like anything else a personal choice to consume. It is not alcohol that is the issue but how it is used. It should be used with responsibility. I personally dont get that distressed about others drinking ... if it annoys me i move on and think the place is not for me. I dont go on the war path deciding it should be made illegal just because some ppl take it too far. I mean driving in Dubai annoys the hell out of me more? Should i consider driving to be made illegal!! It will be anarchy!!

I've made my point clear as well...but i can tell it's a hit a nerves...eh, I mean nerve!

Dr. spock...people with a concern eh that's a good one! Is that how you ignorant bigots are sugar coating your words these days? FYI, the most successful and richest people in Britain are Asians. I'm sure that must be killing you. I wonder if this 'not-real-British' businessman had found a cure for cancer instead of bouncing cheques would he then be classified a REAL brit in you warped mind!

Lady Oryx: I have made my point countless times over - A real Brit is someone who does abuse our tradition values and heritage, much the same way that a local person here no doubt would honour his/her traditions. These traditions and heritage have been readily abused by those out for their own ends, that goes for black, white, green, blue!. As for other dodgy UK business endeavours the list is endless and as for my MP yes he has voiced opinions on immigration as it was within his parties policies that this would be looked at as the system was, is, being abused. As for criminality transcending nationality that's my whole point! during the very act nationality is irrelevant however once caught suddenly it is so very important to some that they be treated differently to others, funny that!...anyway I will leave you to your opinions of which you seem to have many.

Good on you Nicholas, what a fab end to such a terrible journey!

If those drinks weren't available (considerably over priced these days by the way) then you may see a big drop off in people being bothered to live here, make it a hardship posting like Saudi

Also, what is this "Premier League TV" in London? Sky Sports by any chance as they are the rights holder in the UK. I don't recall Sky having the PLTV logo in the bottom right corner

Unfortunately, it's not cheaper to go out and watch every single game outside, aside from inconvenience that's surely the idea of having the football at home, being able to watch every game as I like to do. The other AD channels (not channel 5) also seemed to be only in Arabic on e-vision. I asked them why and they said 'it's only just started, we will try to fix it soon' (eh?) ... why say this game is on this channel, that one on this and then only in Arabic. This problem always comes up and this is a brand new e-vision box that should be able to cope with all these simple things like changing the language. It's like back to the days of ART Sports when you didn't know which language the game would come on in. As it stands I can watch 1 game, not a choice of all of them until they get the language sorted out

@day7, it's not just an expat problem. It is a problem everyone should be concerned about and one that involves everyone. There are multiple nationalities involved in the trafficking of women, in offering visas and as clients. Your constant expat bashing is unhelpful, boring and mindless.

So, Dr Spock, what is your definition of a "real Brit" then? And do you really think that no "real Brit" has ever been involved in any dodgy property developments here? Tha's pretty naive of you. The crime committed is the real issue and while I think his sentence is pretty harsh for a white collar crime, he has broken the law here. Criminality transcends nationality. And by the way, immigrants have made a great contribution to the UK and there is no evidence to suggest immigration impacts on unemployment. I hope your MP told you that when you voiced your concerns to him or her.

Er, R. June, Turkey is a secular country with no state religion...

Light-hearted banter? Nothing says comedy like calling expats scum and trivialising the trafficking of women for prostitution. I can't wait to see your routine at the next Laughter Factory, although those shows are usually full of expat scum.

Here's hoping the disabled victim doesn't end up in jail. Then again, I didn't think this country would jail a 14-year-old girl either.

And this will keep on happening until there are proper workplace safety laws here that force employers to take responsibility and ensure all workers are kept safe.

How about a story headed: "Silly impatient women get changed in public rather than wait for an empty toilet cubicle..." Stop the presses!

It is a storm in a B-cup...

the problem djenkins, is that no one would read a story titled "minor inconvenience at ski dubai"

Oh Lady Oryx: The voice of the people right? wrong! your attitude is typical of someone grossly out of touch with general sentiment in the UK towards immigration and as per usual you totally miss the point. I voted in the last election as I do care a great deal and yes I do have an MP that I have readily conversed within the past such is my right as a continuing tax payer to do so! Stop labelling people racist, that's people with a concern... Impatient Dubai: First comment! second comment? do you need help with English, or just context? As for the Daily Mail I do not read that rag, what a stupid thing to say! Anyone who attaches true personal viewpoint to papers read is a dim wit!. Grow up!

Palooza - Bit harsh but fair!

ACoz2000...How does that the driver didn't know about her age? She is one of the students he drived everyday to school! And if he is old enough, he could have think twice before having intimate relationship of the young girl, or maybe he can no longer control his stupidness!!!

True JAB but fake medicine here is also a problem! I can tolerate other fake stuff but those who deal in this are beyond evil!

I have stood fast on this one! I pay 340 odd dirhams per month to watch Coronation street! Had to buy a new Al Jazeera rd for the Six Nations and have a dish plus decoder fitted, then world cup saga, fancied HD so bought another decoder paid the bills to a tune of 1000 aed for the pleasure of seeing the worst football I have ever seen (HD very good except in Arabic at all language choices). Stated to watch the last round of the US PGA last night and lost signal for ages and decided to just go to bed! I am at the end of my tether! The solution is this, get the cheapest package available and head off to the nearest bar and watch any game you like with a drink with bubbles in! The price you pay out for a drink is far cheaper than all these subscriptions and overheads plus the added bonus of a night out! Bye bye Dubai Broadcasters!!!!

Well I hope he gets as much 'support' as he needs...

A very dangerous criminal indeed! What a laugh! It is one of their biggest achievements Lady Oryx!

Groan!

The reason they are so sharp to dish out tickets there is just in case you have a bomb in the back... IE Zero tolerance! Well done the Police I say!