Thursday, September 2, 2010

i think liquor is the main reason why people do nasty things on a bar.. they got drunk, do things that they are not doing if they're normal.. hmmm right?

Before I forget, if something like that happends to you, do not fight back or you will be locked up. The law says so!! Firstly it questions will be, What were you doing there? Were you drinking? Where is your drinking licence? All of a sudden the man is the victim and you are at fault. Men know this, that is why they have no respect for women in clubs and take advantage. They dont believe in "look but don't touch" careful ladies!!!

Pinoy Hoy I dont think its any of your business what people do with their money. Yes, people go there to socialise and what is wrong with that may I ask? It doesnt necessary mean it will end up in bed! If having fun and dancing is not permitted then Im sure they wont have any clubs or alcohol in this country. And Seriously who "flashes their trendy clothes?" in a club. If people want to do that they can do it any place and not only in a club.No need to sound resentful and jealouse. Lastly, and I cant stress this enough. A lady (unless she is in that profession maybe) does not deserve to be treated indecently no matter WHERE she is and WHAT she wears.

If nothing else the comments on this forum have shown me why these problems exist. And it isn't because of what women wear - nor is it completely because of alcohol. The biggest problem is that men don't feel that they are responsible for their actions! The majority of comments here blame the woman - her dress, for being there in the first place etc. When it is really the guy who is unable to exercise self control and keep his hands to himself who is at fault. I wonder if the comments would have the same tone if it was a guy who had been injured by a drunk hitting him for wearing a partictular shirt. Would it be that guys fault because he should have known that there were drunk people there and they would be likely to pick on a particular style of dress?? There are NO excuses for this kind of behaviour and if you think there are then you are likely the type of person who would perpetrate such an offense.

What do you people get from these nightclubs anyway? Socialize? Get Drunk? Pretend to be someone you really aren't? Flash your trendy clothes? Waste your money? Meet new people so you get to sleep with them a few hours later? I mean is this where you put your money? Then afterwards you get to complain of something indecent being done to you? Wake up people!

I can't believe it! Dubai seems to be packed full of guys who think "she's a women so she's asking for it". Come on losers, show some respect! If you do, you'll will find that you don't have to grope around like some girl-shy socially retarded 13 year old. Top marks to you Humphrey - Respect!

Humprey!! you name gives you the right.... :P

I just wanna share my own experience about that matter.. Im a guy by the way, last month I had watched a metal concert here in dubai.. I accidentaly bumped a lady.. I accidentaly touched one of her privte part, the first thing came into my mind is to chase her and to apologize, which i did.. my surprised, she also apologized.. anyways i think if you did soemthing by accident, you will realize in a glimpse that you need to apologize.. =) next time be safe..

If it is accepted that a woman’s dress sense is an excuse for a man to rape / molest / harass or treat them inappropriately – then why are woman mosly ‘attacked’ in dimly lite night clubs and quiet secluded alleyways and NOT during the day on a busy public beach where their clothing is far more provocative since they are topless with just a string thong … could it be because perv’s aren’t so brave in the sunlight where everyone can see what they are doing? (Something to think about if your argument is weighing on woman being at fault because of the clothes that “Hollywood” and the “Media” has educated them to wear to be socially accepted and attractive to the modern-man in 2009 …)

My point is that most times no encouragment are needed! What excuse do they have when they molest a person who are dressed properly not tight or even a little skin showing?What justification can you give them. And its not only the "accidental" touching but verbal and inappropriate innuendos that are disrespectful and downright annoying.

Rightly said Jade so why encourage them??

Man + pervertedness = Trouble

Drunk man + lady with short skirt= trouble

No one has the the right to harass women at any establishment - that is the basic right of human dignity. I dont want to hear the excuse because it was a nightclub because then you are saying that women have no right to go anywhere they want to or enjoy themselves as others do. A sicko is a sicko no matter where he is he will find an excuse to be a perv. Anon next time tell a security guard so he can be confronted openly and made aware that his behaviour is unacceptable no matter where you are.

I think its a shame how all the men out here are defending the convict - MAN Himself... probably goes to show the way they were raised up... i too am a man... but an act of groping or molesting is something totally unthinkable...i think its time the women stepped up and unleashed their vengeance upon those who indulge in these inhumane acts of perverseness and claim SELF DEFENSE.

In their hearts of hearts everyone knows that if they dress provocatively they are likely to be attracting the wrong type of attention. Yet they insist on living in denial. It is so obvious that it doesn't need saying. Would you leave a wad of cash in your car in plain view? NO you wouldn't . Ofcourse no one has the right to open your car door and take it. It's common sense. I agree there are those who are mentally unbalanced out there. But isn't that all the more reason to cover up and not attract their attention. Who would be a more likely target a person who is dressed modestly or one who is dressed provocatively. Its all about mitigation of risk.

I think we have established that it doesnt matter what we ladies are wearing or where we are. How about that lady wearing an abbaya who almost got raped? Do you think that he thinks she is "one of those with easy virtue"?

Your outward appearance is a reflection of your nature. Your clothes tell people what to think about you. Why do you think that professionals are supposed to dress in a certain way?? Would you trust an investment advisor with your money who was dressed shabbily? Why do nuns cover themselves from head to toe? It is to give a message of chastity.. Similarily if you dress provocatively what message do you think you are giving people?

Nobody has the right to touch anyone inappropriately ANYWHERE! Homer may think that this is "normal" so acceptable but he is wrong. As an ex "bouncer" from one of the toughest areas in the UK, Barnsley, I and my colleagues would deal harshly with this sort of behaviour, so don't be surprised if the perpetrators of these acts find themselves in "trouble"!!

Come on! Ms. Anonymous you have to accept that discos are not a place for enjoying your time or yourself. For most of the ladies it is the right place to make a good business. Probably those men thought you are one of those easy virtue lot.

I went to a club about a month ago and may I add, I was covered up in loose trousers and a long sleeved shirt yet when I was walking towards my friends in the club a creep just tapped me on the shoulder and told me to smile and stood right in front of my friend and refused to let her pass,he kept asking her name- I had to drag her away. We were both covered up-the men in clubs are so badly behaved I now only go with my boyfriend and wear 3 inch boots so if anyone bothers me I will hit him where it hurts the most! Whatever a woman wears it gives NOBODY the right to harass her. I would also like to add, this does not happen only in clubs, I have also been harassed when I have gone for walks to the supermarket men honk their car horns continuously at me and yell out at me and in many instances I have been followed and this is at 4pm not 4am. and no, I dont wear short skirts or sleeveless!

Forget about whether you are female or male, short skirt or armour, good looking or average looking - this disrespect and complete disregard for other people is commonplace. Dark dancefloor in a club at 2AM or supermarket at 10AM - there will always be someone exhibiting the continued decline in human values. Based on that learn how to put on a good wrist lock and watch the person rolling about in pain for while.

Regardless of how long or short your skirt is, or whether you are in a club or out on the street, no man has the right to rub against, fondle, touch, etc a woman who is not known to him. For heavens sake! What happened to manners and the art of simple conversation to get to know someone....? Don't bouncers wander around looking out if any trouble starts to prevents it, or do they just try to emulate the fashion police and look pretty outside the door?

No its not suprising that men can be so perverted, especially in a night club..but its not an excuse and it doesnt mean we ladies should take it quietly.

How long was your skirt? It goes with the territory i think

I am married and I will go to nightclubs to go dancing with my husband and with my friends. Are you saying Homer that it is okay for men to put their hands up my skirt just because I am in a nightclub and if I can't handle it, I should leave? Is that what you do ?

to all the ladies out there, if u feel that someone is violating your "space", kick that someone and tell him to get lost! if it helps, use a fire extinguisher to extinguish his lustful thoughts!!! that will teach him to act normally...

Its a club, not a place of worship. Drunkards and such will always be acting up in places like this. You're surprised? And don't single out Dubai. This happens around the world.

I was also recently "molested" in one of the city's most infamous clubs - I'm a keen clubber and have been clubbing in most major cities in the world and am disappointed to say that this is the first time this has ever happend. The man put his hand up my skirt but waited until he could do it and try and slip away so I couldn't see who exactly it was or tell if it was deliberate! When I confronted him he ran away from me like a scared child so he knew he was in the wrong - the bouncers need to be aware and I agree as soon as this happens point out the offender to the bouncers - it is illegal!

If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen! Frankly what do you expect? Nightclubs are not exactly the right place for clear thinking level headed men. You will have to mingle.